From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 15 20:13:03 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590E216A41C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:13:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC2343D48 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:13:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6FKD0c2001933; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:13:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6FKCxNZ006863; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:12:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j6FKCxVX006862; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:12:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:12:59 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthias Buelow Message-ID: <20050715201259.GB6738@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <42D6B117.5080302@plab.ku.dk> <20050714191449.A8A615D07@ptavv.es.net> <20050714195253.GA23666@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> <20050715185413.GI37261@funkthat.com> <20050715191412.GA1374@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> <42D80E9C.70607@mac.com> <20050715201102.GC1374@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050715201102.GC1374@drjekyll.mkbuelow.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dangerous situation with shutdown process X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: /dev/null@freebie.xs4all.nl List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:13:03 -0000 On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:11:02PM +0200, Matthias Buelow wrote.. > Chuck Swiger wrote: > > >If "sysctl hw.ata.wc=0" doesn't do what you want, please submit a PR > >containing something better. Or buy SCSI hardware and a real, > > Well, if I had the time, I would. Also if instead of softupdates, > a proper journalled filesystem implementation with kernel support > for write barriers in the block drivers had been implemented, we > wouldn't have this problem now. Ok, no point in arguing how things Not If The Bloody PeeCee Style Crap ATA Drives Keep Lying To You.. Followups to /dev/null -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org