From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 18 21:48:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CEE1065672 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@netconsonance.com) Received: from mail.netconsonance.com (mail.netconsonance.com [198.207.204.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9638FC1D for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrhett@netconsonance.com) Received: from [172.16.12.8] (covad-jrhett.meer.net [209.157.140.144]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.netconsonance.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8ILkuKQ069970; Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrhett@netconsonance.com) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at netconsonance.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.417 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.417 tagged_above=-999 required=3.5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44, AWL=-0.977] Message-Id: From: Jo Rhett To: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: <200809182103.m8IL34r2053611@lava.sentex.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:46:56 -0700 References: <1219409496.10487.22.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <20080904133604.GB1188@atarininja.org> <47d0403c0809051319r3c82f87bhdb15ce5b0167987a@mail.gmail.com> <2742CAB1-8FF2-425D-A3B6-0658D7DB8F4D@netconsonance.com> <0C2C7E9B-61E3-4720-B76F-4745A3C963DA@netconsonance.com> <658B8861-1E78-4767-8D3D-8B79CC0BD45F@netconsonance.com> <12944D4C-5243-4EC7-8E1A-04A7735B5AEA@netconsonance.com> <200809181925.m8IJPo3Z053187@lava.sentex.ca> <40E3236C-CAF7-406D-835F-948954F67D51@netconsonance.com> <200809181946.m8IJkFDa053266@lava.sentex.ca> <9ECDD71F-D4EB-4846-AB12-40B123AE7E16@netconsonance.com> <200809182103.m8IL34r2053611@lava.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: Upcoming Releases Schedule... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:48:18 -0000 On Sep 18, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > I had a search and I see some PRs you have submitted, but I guess > you commit under a different @freebsd.org email address ? I don't commit. I submit and others commit. This hasn't really been a handicap ;-) > Thats most excellent! I think people would take your suggestions > with greater gravity if you reminded them with a few URLs to point > out the various commit messages that say, "sponsored by > netconsonance" etc. Or perhaps a few of these numerous developers > could speak up on your behalf? Again, netconsonance is "Jo" and a few random others that contract via the company to avoid having to create their own company. The "We" in most of my discussions is my $EMPLOYER. And you can see their logos and name listed in numerous places. >> We pay for development of features that >> we need but don't have the appropriate skills to fix ourselves. > > That then went back into FreeBSD ? Can you give examples ? I > ask all this as you really, really want things to change, and you > say you have \ I'm sorry, but I have neither the time nor the interest in trying to provide a FreeBSD resume to someone. This is a tangent, and never in my experience has a tangent moved the original discussion forward. Are you in a position to make changes? What role in this do you have? What value is there answering these questions? (which have been answered many times if you google for them) I'd rather just drop this tangent. -- Jo Rhett Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source and other randomness