From owner-freebsd-arch Sat Feb 17 7:32:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ringworld.nanolink.com (pool240-tch-1.Sofia.0rbitel.net [212.95.170.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACBD637B4EC for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2001 07:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 930 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Feb 2001 15:30:19 -0000 Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:30:19 +0200 From: Peter Pentchev To: Matt Dillon Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Mark Murray , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Summary of List of things to move from main tree to ports Message-ID: <20010217173019.A431@ringworld.oblivion.bg> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Dillon , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Dag-Erling Smorgrav , Mark Murray , arch@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200102170722.f1H7MHm20405@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200102170722.f1H7MHm20405@earth.backplane.com>; from dillon@earth.backplane.com on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 11:22:17PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 11:22:17PM -0800, Matt Dillon wrote: > Ok, here's my summary. Yah yah, I inject my own opinions. Too bad. > This will be my last posting on the topic. > > > Least Controversial: > > Medium Controversial: > > UUCP (uucp, uucpd) > [snip] > > There are fewer people screaming for UUCP to stay in the base tree > then, say, people screaming for rlogind to stay in the base tree. > Despite Terry's waxing poetic about UUCP's dialup capabilities, > every soul I know (except maybe Terry) who has ever used UUCP in the > past no longer does (and I should know: I wrote AmigaUUCP!). > However, if those people are going to make a big deal about it, > I suppose we can take the intermediate step of having a BUILD_UUCP > make.conf (opt-in) option for the next few years. Just a minor comment-with-a-question. What is UUCP used for - mainly mail? If so, then here's a datapoint - about two years ago I took part in converting an existing UUCP mail transfer config to one using fetchmail. Quite simple - invoke fetchmail -d from the PPP link-up script, kill it in the link-down script in such a way that it sends a QUIT to avoid message duplicates. There were a couple of other issues too, but in the end, it all started working, and it's been working flawlessly for the past two years. When I compared a five-line .fetchmailrc to the UUCP configuration (that I, admittedly, did not quite understand, since I had had no part in setting it up), I was, like.. well, you can imagine :) G'luck, Peter -- The rest of this sentence is written in Thailand, on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message