From owner-svn-src-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 2 10:13:42 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 504281065672; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 10:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pv0-f182.google.com (mail-pv0-f182.google.com [74.125.83.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228F68FC14; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 10:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pvg11 with SMTP id 11so1090126pvg.13 for ; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:13:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=x/TV9A2V0IPeqJPLQ9yfT/nFk7LE9bTogkK30BuiLuo=; b=ACTtVOm9GniTfn0/7IRPljJux9kD6+S+c66Rn30CfPblITlrNhvVyTzMisg1cUcQRF RO8ApFoscVsxjZSwOE/eE2IIJx+T1zSd84RZngleBsn0Sx3Eqkct918hyX6TXuDJ3fGj TKlPxo4AwaHRyFmN0zempGi+ZjZSkEtnYwbSE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MfvZci7x8g0nkmlz+rWgp9y2iCgy/7TStBSyJ3ufL6zG2wZ1lyzgoab7VffPAh1LQf IzBnqUR8z6Q0sXA4shxkxiwUSTDEAnxrh7JIXk1Zl9qolxD6IbtPIxMphtHZdk5uuac+ jswjB0yqfYgp2x0xeYklPJkSdzZuayOQUwdCs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.173.20 with SMTP id v20mr3801431wfe.212.1301739221538; Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.62.164 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Apr 2011 03:13:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110402115336.37394ztrsha7r58o@cakebox.homeunix.net> References: <201104011823.p31INiHv055195@svn.freebsd.org> <20110402015552.GA32901@FreeBSD.org> <20110402115336.37394ztrsha7r58o@cakebox.homeunix.net> Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 03:13:41 -0700 Message-ID: From: Xin LI To: Alexander Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, Alexey Dokuchaev Subject: Re: svn commit: r220250 - in stable/8: bin/test tools/regression/bin/test X-BeenThere: svn-src-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for all the -stable branches of the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 10:13:42 -0000 2011/4/2 Alexander : > The downside is that one may end up writing scripts on FreeBSD which will > unexpectedly break on other Unixes. Do we consider having someone else's script 'unexpectedly' break on FreeBSD as a better thing then? I think if we want FreeBSD to serve as a standard validator, it's better to hide such behavior under things like a POSIXLY_CORRECT umbrella. > ----- Message from delphij@gmail.com --------- > =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 00:33:43 -0700 > =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: Xin LI > =C2=A0Subject: Re: svn commit: r220250 - in stable/8: bin/test > tools/regression/bin/test > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0To: Alexey Dokuchaev > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cc: svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.o= rg, > src-committers@freebsd.org, Xin LI , > svn-src-stable-8@freebsd.org > > >> 2011/4/1 Alexey Dokuchaev : >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 06:23:44PM +0000, Xin LI wrote: >>>> >>>> =C2=A0 Accept =3D=3D as an alias of =3D which is a popular GNU extensi= on. >>>> >>>> =C2=A0 This is intentionally undocumented for now since it's not part >>>> =C2=A0 of any standard. >>> >>> I thought general consensus that this change should never be part of >>> FreeBSD, not just being undocumented (which, as we all know, is bad >>> practice pe se). >> >> This have been discussed in -standards@ and have been settled for more >> than 1 month, there were two developers asked me after the commit but >> nobody asked for a revert (so far), so I don't think it's general >> consensus that this change should not be part of FreeBSD. =C2=A0Being >> undocumented means we do not encourage its use. >> >> I think there is good reason to add this extension for compatibility >> reasons, plus it does not break anything. >> >> So did I missed some discussion about why it's a bad move? >> >> Cheers, >> -- >> Xin LI http://www.delphij.net >> _______________________________________________ >> svn-src-stable-8@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-stable-8 >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "svn-src-stable-8-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > ----- End message from delphij@gmail.com ----- > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > # =C2=A0 =C2=A0_ =C2=A0__ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_ __ =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 http://www.nagilum.org/ \n icq://69646724 # > # =C2=A0 / |/ /__ ____ _(_) /_ ____ _ =C2=A0nagilum@nagilum.org \n +49177= 6461165 # > # =C2=A0/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0/ _ `/ _ `/ / / // / =C2=A0' \ =C2=A0Amiga (68k/PP= C): AOS/NetBSD/Linux =C2=A0 # > # /_/|_/\_,_/\_, /_/_/\_,_/_/_/_/ Mac (PPC): MacOS-X / Linux / MacOS-X # > # =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /___/ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 x86: FreeBSD/Lin= ux/Solaris/Win2k =C2=A0ARM9: EPOC EV6 # > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > cakebox.homeunix.net - all the machine one needs.. > --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net