From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 10 02:04:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D258816A4CE for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:04:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com (smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A01D543D49 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:04:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from unknown (HELO optimator.noacks.org) (noackjr@supercrime.org@70.240.234.183 with login) by smtp003.bizmail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Aug 2004 02:04:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A755E61C9; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:04:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 39571-01; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:04:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from compgeek.noacks.org (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF9660CF; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:04:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by compgeek.noacks.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i7A24bjC022462; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:04:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Message-ID: <41182D34.3060409@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 21:04:36 -0500 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.3 (X11/20040806) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edwin Groothuis References: <410E3AA2.4030800@alumni.rice.edu> <20040809100244.GA17314@hub.freebsd.org> <20040809111316.GJ1826@k7.mavetju> In-Reply-To: <20040809111316.GJ1826@k7.mavetju> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG cc: David O'Brien cc: Oliver Eikemeier Subject: Re: upgrade of file(1) to 4.10 (including FreeBSD elf(5) fixes) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:04:39 -0000 On 08/09/04 06:13, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > Please have a look at > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/freebsd-versions.html > , please have a look at /usr/include/sys/param.h and come back with > patches if you still have problems. > > This nonsense has gone on long enough. It will be better if you > explain where my thinking went wrong in a constructive way instaed > of this constant bickering like old women do. That way we all learn > something from it. Someone may have already answered this (I'm just coming off working 66 hours in the past 80, so I'm a *bit* out_of_it/verging_on_hallucinations/etc.), but I think the biggest potential issue is the hard-coding of -CURRENT and -STABLE. As these are moving targets, hard-coding them means continued maintenance of the FILE code is necessary with each new major release (even if it is required only once every couple years). A programmatic solution that needed little or no maintenance would be preferred. I sidestepped the issue by printing out the __FreeBSD_version string whenever I came across a development branch. This still says "Hey, I'm not (based on) a release!" but doesn't need further maintenance and just happens to provide a little extra informative as well. Thanks for working on FILE; I'm glad I'm not the only one who was tired of seeing "FreeBSD 5.0.2" with recent -CURRENT... Jon