From owner-freebsd-current Fri Aug 10 22:31: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F179337B405; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 22:30:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f7B5Ulw129904; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 01:30:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200108101800.f7AI0Xd83332@green.bikeshed.org> References: <200108101800.f7AI0Xd83332@green.bikeshed.org> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 01:30:44 -0400 To: "Brian F. Feldman" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Can we please remove "green@FreeBSD.org" from the version string? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:00 PM -0400 8/10/01, Brian F. Feldman wrote: >"David O'Brien" wrote: > > Do you suggest we rename all of these so as to "descritiptively > > differentiate" them? The GCC and GDB developers have asked me to > > _tweak_ (not rename) the version string to show these have > > FreeBSD'isms in them. That is all that is needed to show > > something is "special" about our versions. > >None of those actually report their version numbers over the network >and expect whatever is reading those version numbers to attempt to >decipher them and do the right thing according to what it is. Are there any other versions of OpenSSH which report themselves as being "person@host"? > > > It's far removed from being "plain" OpenSSH or "portable" > > > OpenSSH. > > >> This the "FreeBSD" added to the version string. > >How does that differentiate itself from just being "OpenSSH on >FreeBSD"? It's common for a network application to report >part of the uname() in the version string, and that's not what >this is... Maybe we could come up with something a bit better than the plain word "FreeBSD". It could report itself as "+FreeBSD-isms", for instance. But I do think it is very odd to have some service announce a "version" which is just some person's email address. Personally I'd rather the version string gave some vague hint as to what the "special features" of this OpenSSH are, in case someone in some other OS liked those special features, but didn't which to call themselves green@freebsd.org, or even just plain "freebsd". It's been a long, hot, CodeRed-plagued week, or I would try to think up a variety of plausible strings we could use for a version. I am too tired to do that, but I will say that I really do not see any advantage with using someone's email address as a version string. It's not like you WROTE openssh, and we certainly would look stupid if the version string included the email address of every single developer who contributed significantly to openssh. I see no good reason why any one developer's name would deserve such a visible acknowledgement for the work they've done, and yet everyone else just gets listed in the source code or the man page. That's just my own opinion, of course. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message