From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Dec 15 16:51:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA04789 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:51:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04776 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:51:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA14697; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:20:12 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19971216112010.31703@lemis.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 11:20:10 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Alex Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DELETING WINDOWS 95, Please Help References: <19971216092045.30501@lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Alex on Mon, Dec 15, 1997 at 04:40:55PM -0800 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Dec 15, 1997 at 04:40:55PM -0800, Alex wrote: > > > On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Greg Lehey wrote: > >>> No, I have 64mb ;-) And no I'm not gonna try to get 32 more. >> >> 64 MB will do. > > Sometimes I wonder, perhaps it's just my window manager eating up > ram. Were you the person complaining about a 3 minute startup? Does it swap a lot during that time? The other thing we've been seeing is that it hangs for about that amount of time doing a name server lookup. In this case, it's completely idle during that period. >>> I like it because it's graphical and somewhat less awkward than emacs >>> (for me). >> >> I hate it because it's graphical and much more awkward than Emacs (for >> me :-) > > Emacs is great, and I love it for source code highliting, but I like a GUI > or support for more formatted text when doing word processing. I wrote "The Complete FreeBSD" with Emacs and groff. The thought of having to do it with a GUI word processor terrifies me. >>> If I had my way, I'd like to see a [free] version of WP 5.1 (for >>> DOS) ported over to some *nix with long file name and perhaps lpr >>> and ghostscript support. Rumor has it that was written in >>> assembly. ;-) >> >> I can't believe that. I used to write a lot in assembler in the old >> days, but I don't know anybody who's written anything significant in >> assembler on an -86 platform. > > Either way, WP 5.1 was one of the best written programs I've ever used. > It was blazingly fast (on a 486 none the less), so I wouldn't doubt that a > lot of it was written in assembly. It even came with a little task > swapper thing, that while not as powerful as DeskView, it certianly worked > nicely and came with a nice bunch of integrated apps (calendar, mini > database, spreadsheet, etc..). Those Mormons sure knew how to code DOS > apps back then ;-) Heh. I gave up on WP with version 4.2 because of the number of bugs. But don't expect assembler to bring that much performance improvement. I did some tests and found less than 5% CPU time improvement over well-written C. And remember, it ran under DOS, not under Windows (didn't it?), so that would make a big difference. Greg