Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 15:45:30 -0400 From: Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> To: Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Ars Technica article on FreeBSD new user experience Message-ID: <CAPyFy2B=tmEG%2BYvVbgdwjNXWu6PWf7ntd1rSE6uY2Obr6i3MkQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CACNAnaF000ywitUn-HfqpFKZVXBtU78m=OXQXego9_0SxrT-jQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPyFy2AVfEzey0%2B9-b8ZS1uyn8ODOoNhCHY7fHp2uc9ASiw%2BnA@mail.gmail.com> <CACNAnaF000ywitUn-HfqpFKZVXBtU78m=OXQXego9_0SxrT-jQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 15:34, Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org> wrote: > > 2. re: default shell and niceties: complete agreement, IMO we should > at least have basically usable history at a minimum Complete agreement here, although in 13-CURRENT /bin/sh is surprisingly usable. I'm normally a zsh user, but after using /bin/sh on a new laptop I've found !$ is the only thing I strongly miss. > 3. re: `pkg search xorg` -- that makes sense, given "pkg search xorg > returns too many hits to fit on a single page of a text-mode console". Indeed, I think the article is technically incorrect, but the usability problem is the same; if `pkg search xorg` returns more than a screenfull of results and the desired one scrolled away, does it really matter that it's actually present? There are some usability improvements that could be made with pkg / pkg search, but really a new user should trivially be able to get a graphical environment running, before they'd have any reason to `pkg search` anything.
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