From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Dec 16 01:29:34 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E2AC8239C for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 01:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) Received: from hades.sorbs.net (mail.sorbs.net [67.231.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEE11617 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 01:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michelle@sorbs.net) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from C02LJ0HMFFT4.corp.proofpoint.com (static-58-108-170-168.optusnet.com.au [58.108.170.168]) by hades.sorbs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.29.0 64bit (built Jul 9 2013)) with ESMTPSA id <0OI900K6D8IJ6M60@hades.sorbs.net> for freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 17:37:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The ports collection has some serious issues To: Matthieu Volat , list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org References: <20161208085926.GC2691@gmail.com> <3b00e76a-7a97-aa1b-72e9-236161044c3b@m5p.com> <20161215183122.GG5268@pol-server.leissner.se> <20161215201517.2e6bcd39@freedom.alkumuna.eu> From: Michelle Sullivan Message-id: <58534376.9040502@sorbs.net> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 11:29:26 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40 In-reply-to: <20161215201517.2e6bcd39@freedom.alkumuna.eu> X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 01:29:34 -0000 Matthieu Volat wrote: > On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 19:31:22 +0100 > list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 01:18:05PM -0500, George Mitchell wrote: >>> On 12/15/16 09:40, Warren Block wrote: >>>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016, Matt Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Dec 08 05:16, Daniil Berendeev wrote: >>>>>> Although portmaster is not releated to the FreeBSD project and is an >>>>>> outside tool, there aren't any alternatives from the project itself. So >>>>>> use it or die. Not a nice situation. >>>>> People have been trying to get portmaster deprecated and removed from >>>>> the handbook but have met with resistance. >>>> Well, yes. Because it works, has no dependencies, and there is no >>>> equivalent replacement. [...] >>> Warren, you have hit the nail on the head. -- George >> +1 >> >> I never have problems with portmaster. >> (But portupgrade could at times be an utter mess, >> I never looked back after switching to portmaster >> many years ago.) >> >> And I'm not at all interested in running poudriere >> or synth, thank you. >> > It seems that if people happy with portmaster keep silent, others will assume it's okay to try to dismiss it; Yup > so here am I, happy with portmaster. Don't worry, the people that have the power will dismiss it when they deem you need to "upgrade" to using synth or poudreire... oh and don't worry they'll remove distfiles and the previous 4 versions of the distfiles so that you can't keep your own local copy running, especially if you publish how to use it yourself. > > I could switch to something else that is feature wise similar; but if it would not written in some quasi-obselete/niche/hipster programing language or involve admin/config tasks like creating repos. > > Until a challenger appears, I'm just going to use and recommend portmaster. > Same. Regards, Michelle