From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 4 11:14:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from atg.aciworldwide.com (h139-142-180-4.gtcust.grouptelecom.net [139.142.180.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE8A37B401 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atg.aciworldwide.com (atg.aciworldwide.com [139.142.180.33]) by atg.aciworldwide.com (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f94IEn8f038432; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:14:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200110041814.f94IEn8f038432@atg.aciworldwide.com> Organization: ACI Worldwide - Advanced Technology Group X-URL: http://www.aciworldwide.com/ X-Notes-Item: Just say no to Notes! To: Bernd Walter Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: uucp user shell and home directory In-Reply-To: Message from Bernd Walter of "Thu, 04 Oct 2001 19:43:36 +0200." <20011004194336.C3918@cicely20.cicely.de> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:14:49 -0600 From: Lyndon Nerenberg Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Just like with anonymous FTP, don't make it world writable if you don't > > want the world writing to it. > > Right - that's what actually was done. > Don't install it unless you need. Oh give me a break. You do not disable anonymous FTP uploads by 'rm /usr/libexec/ftpd'. > I'm talking about the one in FreeBSD. > uux job is to setup the commands for the next site and break the > next sitename if it equals 8 letters. That's strange. For over two years I've talked hourly to a pair of UUCP sites with eight character nodenames, and it works just fine. What is the specific breakage you are seeing? > There is a big difference - they are maintained and don't contain known > security issues. Again I ask: if maintenance is an issue, why would you not even attempt to find a maintainer? > I don't get your point - what is wrong with having it a port? Well, here's one reason: 1) Remove all the network interfaces from your system (Ethernet, PPP, SL/IP, etc). 2) cd into /usr/ports and try to build UUCP. Unless you have a prepopulated /usr/ports/distfiles, it won't work. Requiring IP connectivity to bootstrap software on a machine that doesn't have IP connectivity is a non-starter. Yes, you can install from the CDROM, but there will always be cases where you can't do this (media errors, lack of CD, etc.) However my underlying argument still remains that nothing is being done to address the actual problem. I.e., people are going out of their way to see the problem NOT get fixed. There's an issue of principal at stake here, and I really don't like the precedent that is being set by this move. --lyndon Never hit a man with glasses. Hit him with a baseball bat. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message