From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Nov 30 14:26:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B0237B416 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:26:13 -0800 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: Erik Trulsson Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:26:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Am I forced to install Xfree86? Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <3C079707.26404.265FFB@localhost> In-reply-to: <20011130112735.GA24903@student.uu.se> References: <3C06C83C.24008.1EC0AD1@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 30 Nov 2001, at 12:27, Erik Trulsson boldly uttered: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 11:43:56PM -0800, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > > On 30 Nov 2001, at 9:50, Igor Roboul boldly uttered: > > > > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 06:51:26AM -0800, Philip J. Koenig wrote: > > > > requires retrieving 30MB of Xfree86 files, compiling and installing, > > > > on a machine that doesn't run X? It seems to have something to do > > > Check /usr/ports/net/mtr/Makefile and you'll see > > > WANT_GTK= yes > > > > > > OK, so what if: > > > > A) I don't know what GTK is > > B) I don't know what changing that to "no" will do to the > > functionality of the port I'm trying to install > > Then don't bother about it. > Ports using WANT_xxx mean: > " If xxx is installed it will be used, otherwise we will get by > witout it." That's contrary to my experience. In the described case, the action was more like "If xxx is installed it will be used, otherwise WE WILL RETRIEVE AND INSTALL IT." See below. > > Not to be annoying, but the ports are promoted as a simple > > way of installing preconfigured programs. I don't think that > > positioning is consistent with the implication that everyone is > > an expert about various options that appear in makefiles, because if > > so, why not just compile the thing from scratch and forget the port? > > > > How difficult would it be in the case of a program like mtr which can > > run perfectly fine without X, to place a question in the script where > > it stops and asks "would you like to include X-Windows support?"? > > For mtr, if you do not have X or GTK installed it is not supposed to > fetch and build it. As far as I can determine from looking at the port > it doesn't do that either unless you have changed something. I DID NOT change anything. This is a brand-new 4.4-RELEASE install. One of the very first things I did after rebooting the machine post- install was to install the mtr port. I didn't change any port settings, compile settings, or make settings. -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message