From nobody Mon Dec 27 08:38:58 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBFA1912744 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:39:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JMrgD0Grqz4fqX for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2021 08:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from [10.1.2.18] (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPSA id 1BR8cwSb066768 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 27 Dec 2021 09:38:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=netfence.it; s=202111; t=1640594342; bh=pfG+Se1K2XHSvl98j6orOKPZAF/Ur08qoQ4F2KJuI2E=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=i4kk2pN6ygWu1L5nFNjCIO1MelWfQZY4mPIy8O4y34VJezWbkGQNR4qRAZQMehcz/ KZoWvJleFf71xXOMqh/IQP2D8c7BK7GF168KXh5uwskXr4vl8YuYqOUltFWDKqCQU0 +/ooCP+cHQRZ60DLZ6asgLBshRZlvQAwxGQZ/z6U= X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152] claimed to be [10.1.2.18] Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2021 09:38:58 +0100 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.4.1 Subject: Re: Half OT: laptop reccomendations Content-Language: en-US To: Graham Perrin , questions@freebsd.org References: <8cf1bcb4-3eaf-599d-ba1e-20afd7073120@gmail.com> From: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <8cf1bcb4-3eaf-599d-ba1e-20afd7073120@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JMrgD0Grqz4fqX X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=netfence.it header.s=202111 header.b=i4kk2pN6; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=netfence.it; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ml@netfence.it designates 78.134.96.152 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ml@netfence.it X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.64 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[netfence.it:s=202111]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.36)[0.363]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[netfence.it:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 12/24/21 18:50, Graham Perrin wrote: Thanks. > > four models, three non-Windows, I can't guess whether any one will take > FreeBSD 13.0-RELEASE in lieu of what's pre-installed. When I go to that page, I only see one product (Chromebook x360); possibly we see different things from different regions? In any case, I've always steered away of ChromeBooks, as I heard they are hard to put FreeBSD on. Is this not true? > Defocusing from HP, whatever you have in mind: Ok. So, back to the only one I found: https://starlabs.systems/pages/starlite-specification Will it work? I'm especially doubtful about the WiFi card: I'm not sure IUIC, but it seems this is not supported out of the box and drivers, while existing, are considered experimental. Am I wrong? > FreeBSD is an unknown, be aware that 13.0-RELEASE can not boot a variety > of computers. A fix will be in 13.1-RELEASE. This is interesting. Is this some sort of regression over 12? Any pointer to some discussion about this? bye & Thanks av.