From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 2 16:13:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FBB37B401 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cactus.fi.uba.ar (cactus.fi.uba.ar [157.92.49.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1B443F93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 16:13:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fgleiser@cactus.fi.uba.ar) Received: from cactus.fi.uba.ar (cactus.fi.uba.ar [157.92.49.108]) by cactus.fi.uba.ar (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h52NBemA021933; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:11:40 -0300 (ART) (envelope-from fgleiser@cactus.fi.uba.ar) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:11:40 -0300 (ART) From: Fernando Gleiser To: Vlad GALU In-Reply-To: <20030602174758.3f85db72.vladg@vipnet.ro> Message-ID: <20030602200857.T6733-100000@cactus.fi.uba.ar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-119.5 required=5.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.53 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Packet flow through IPFW+IPF+IPNAT ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 23:13:02 -0000 On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Vlad GALU wrote: > Example one: IPF is compiled in kernel, IPFW is a module. In this case > IPFW stands 'outside' of IPF. > Example two: viceversa: the order in which they take action is reversed > too. Are you sure? Last time I saw the code (almost a year ago) it didn't make a difference if they were loaded as modules or compiled in kernel. The hooks were in the same place. > IPNAT is always 'outside' IPF. Or, in other words, IPF always 'sees' the real IPs, not the NATed ones. Fer