From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 15 02:07:15 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701FB37B401 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 02:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cyberonic.com (mail.cyberonic.com [4.17.179.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887B243F75 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 02:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg@hydrogen.funkthat.com) Received: from hydrogen.funkthat.com (node-40244c0a.sfo.onnet.us.uu.net [64.36.76.10]) by mail.cyberonic.com (8.12.8/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h6F9YacU013016; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 05:34:36 -0400 Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.funkthat.com (8.12.9/8.11.6) id h6F97Okp030483; Tue, 15 Jul 2003 02:07:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 02:07:24 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Marco Molteni Message-ID: <20030715090724.GH35337@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: Marco Molteni , multimedia@freebsd.org References: <20030714064137.GT35337@funkthat.com> <20030714152113.O81987-100000@server.arg.sj.co.uk> <20030715075307.GD17691@cobweb.example.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030715075307.GD17691@cobweb.example.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ X-Resume: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/resume.html cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking at darwin? (was: Re: BSD video capture emulation question) X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:07:15 -0000 Marco Molteni wrote this message on Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:53 +0200: > I appreciate your effort to provide a "video4bsd" facility. > > Since Apple is famous for being one of the OS of choice for multimedia > professional work, and Darwin is so closely related to FreeBSD, may I > suggest to check if Darwin already has some of the > APIs/services/subsystems/whatever that might be ported to FreeBSD? > > I don't follow Darwin so I cannot say for sure, but I think we should > try to avoid, if possible, the Not Invented Here syndrome ;-) Last I heard, there was an issue of licenses between Darwin and FreeBSD. I have sent mail to -core asking about it. That said, we might want to leverage their userland API for it, but I don't think we could use any of their hardware API. They have a very different hardware framework. One that would make adding shims a bit too complex. So, are you going to do the research and work on this? You didn't even post any links to code, so all the video API may be apart of Mac OSX and not Darwin. This means that we can't get the code. So, if you really thing we should do this route, send your research to the list. -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."