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Cc: Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@freebsd.org>,
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Subject: Re: C99: Suggestions for style(9)
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Julian Elischer schrieb:
> Christoph Mallon wrote:
>> I'm talking about an optimized build - no matter what the style of the 
>> original source was, you will have a hard time debugging it.
> 
> but by removing -Ox I can debug it and you can't

Declaring variables earlier does not magically fill meaningful values 
into them any earlier.

	Christoph