From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Dec 18 14:05:43 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B3CC8561F for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3005C891 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 2F78FC8561E; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F276C8561D for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from shepard.synsport.com (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E854890 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:05:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ip72-204-83-236.fv.ks.cox.net [72.204.83.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08D543BBF; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 08:04:31 -0600 (CST) To: "ports@FreeBSD.org Ports" Cc: demelier.david@gmail.com From: John Marino Subject: The ports collection has some serious issues Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org Message-ID: <6a8a943a-3d27-3d59-041b-dfdd2a2640c2@marino.st> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 08:05:40 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 161217-0, 12/17/2016), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 14:05:43 -0000 David wrote > On 12/16/2016 04:06 PM, John Marino wrote: >> Starting with a clean system: >> 1) install synth from binary package from official freebsd builder (a >> single package) > > What about just building synth from ports? Then the OP have everything > built from ports. > > -- > David In the example, the system is *clean*. If you build from ports you immediately litter it with installed build dependencies. The "real" process is just use the binary package that FreeBSD provides. I was showing how to bootstrap it cleanly and the target audience is those that insist they were the ones to build it (which I assume is a small percentage of the overall audience). There is zero advantage to building it yourself. The other reasons is that all the build dependencies get generated as packages in a synth directory, so by avoiding Synth temporarily has the cost of having to potentially rebuild them all again later for other packages or rebuilding a new version of synth. So it avoids unnecessary repeat work as well. John --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus