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Tue, 17 Sep 2019 00:29:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190913074519.xfu3avb4ihmfzm2o@icepick.vmeta.jp> <20190913090645.buutinhgh2pygb4h@icepick.vmeta.jp> <20190914042738.r3hedyqtpxsxnd5e@icepick.vmeta.jp> <006FCB74-04EB-4A82-A800-6C7CA273E749@adamw.org> <20190916143929.z6vnzoqjme6vw2ey@icepick.vmeta.jp> <20190916161650.4ofb2o27tfxif57e@icepick.vmeta.jp> <20190917064039.7qhnw3lds2zaxdl5@atuin.in.mat.cc> In-Reply-To: <20190917064039.7qhnw3lds2zaxdl5@atuin.in.mat.cc> From: Dewayne Geraghty Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:29:06 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FLAVORS for Ruby To: Koichiro Iwao Cc: FreeBSD Ports , ruby@freebsd.org X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46XZW433lZz4dWR X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=ZFzJ/iMA; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dewaynegeraghty@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::330 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dewaynegeraghty@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.30), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.95), asn: 15169(-2.24), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[0.3.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ruby@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD-specific Ruby discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 07:29:37 -0000 Bottom line: flavors came into being to satisfy specific needs. Python 2 underwent substantial changes during the upgrade to python 3, to the extent that many (most) python applications would cease to function. Similarly php5 to php7. Without flavours the user-base would've been severly impacted during the upgrade transition where some fraction of their applications would fail. Flavours, though I didn't appreciate it at the time, was/is a really smart move and has saved most of us contorting our systems with different versions of the "same" software I suppose if the ruby developers make such a substantial change to the language that applications break, then adding flavors to ruby might be worthwhile. As stated, there is substantial effort required and the need significant. And as I still have "ports" that use python2 (though most use python3), I greatly appeciate their effort. Is there a specific issue, ie breakage requiring ruby flavors?