From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 26 22:57:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB23EBCB for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 22:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x230.google.com (mail-wi0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7BEC264DB1 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 22:57:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ex7so17855667wid.9 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 14:57:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vHAnOgYvItQ2hl7ptWAhJ6VyqI3ZobHJthqBAUSw47E=; b=wHvhnx50S8kD59DNiCWm9LKPSsq6DJaw2aVsYAdCNqo5lIuDxBBRD7QzptXcclqitS s6tyFZQdJ2zo2edLFuMNduhXkrn+SazvaotXRY2CC3zhJ+oBF8UeSXLaPyhsdZ3q9snA GRhe37h6MmdyqzlWJ3xeTNV+MJ+suVljBMMr5c0MbWeG0o8W2VflyCYpxAw9DUg1b1vl Cze2R9KrHqKAEgVOX5qO+2SAha3z8dX5TJB1cd6b0l5/KadzEdzW4zCnWD65b6H+sWZX PUtogg4WnfieA+NwWi7BXwIRpQ2gXjexfC2ohixLV5jObuq6JwTkbG99oJEsENcT6MHV LVvw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.181.8.193 with SMTP id dm1mr71954721wid.55.1419634664929; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 14:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.217.157.195 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 14:57:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7813720d20f4ad81c083db7695df728b.squirrel@ma.sdf.org> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 14:57:44 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Do I want to switch to the new pkg(8) format? From: Chris Stankevitz To: Warren Block Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: cpet@sdf.org, freebsd-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 22:57:47 -0000 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Warren Block wrote: > No, both binary packages and ports require pkg now. It is the only > supported package management tool, and installing ports *is* installing > packages. Warren, Thank you for your replies. I appreciate how careful you are being with your language. Keeping in mind that my FreeBSD vocabulary is not up-to-snuff, can you explain how these two statements can both be simultaneously true: "pkg is the only supported package management tool (and installing ports *is* installing packages)" -Warren Block "portmaster is the recommended tool for upgrading installed ports" -Handbook section 5.5.3.1 If both statement are indeed true, then I must conclude: 1. Upgrading ports is not a "package management" operation. 2. There are many different "operations" you can do with ports and packages. 3. Each "operation" might use a different tool. Sometimes pkg, portmaster, portsnap, make, cvs, pkg_, portsclean, portupgrade, etc. Thank you again, Chris