From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 22 04:11:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6C237B401 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 04:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scuzzy.ben.algroup.co.uk (pc252.siliconnetwork.co.uk [194.205.132.252]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E090E43FDF for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 04:11:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@algroup.co.uk) Received: from algroup.co.uk (wiese.ben.algroup.co.uk [193.133.15.150]) by scuzzy.ben.algroup.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE468B993; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:11:38 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <3EA5236A.2050700@algroup.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:11:38 +0100 From: Ben Laurie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-GB; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030401 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <20030421192709.E1FB05D04@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20030421192709.E1FB05D04@ptavv.es.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.74.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Laptop update... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:11:41 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: >>Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 19:41:51 +0100 >>From: Ben Laurie >> >>Kevin Oberman wrote: >> >> >>>>Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:06:03 +0100 >>>>From: Ben Laurie >>>> >>>>Kevin Oberman wrote: >>>> >>>>>Has any A or T series ThinkPad owner built a new CURRENT system over the >>>>>past week? >>>> >>>>Note that mine is RELENG, not CURRENT. I'm happy to migrate if its >>>>thought useful. >>> >>> >>>RELENG or RELEASE? I really can't recommend RELEASE for a laptop because >>>so many fixes have been made since then to CardBus, interrupt routing, >>>and several other things. Current is a bit of a crap-shoot, but is >>>semi-frozen at this time and is generally pretty stable. >> >>RELENG. > > > Slightly better than release, but mostly just RELEASE+Security patches, > so the CardBus and devd fixes and enhancements are not there. Current is > a little bit frightening, but I would not try running RELEASE on a > laptop and RELENG_5_0 does not really look much better. > > One minor note: current newfs now defaults to UFS2. This is probably no > problem, but it does make rolling back to V4 pretty difficult. Existing > UFS1 partitions are unaffected. This is not an issue for me, I haven't ever had 4 on this laptop. I believe I heard 5.1 is in the works - perhaps I should just hang fire for that? Any idea what the ETA is? Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html http://www.thebunker.net/ "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff