From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 28 16:13:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 910DB2D3 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x22d.google.com (mail-wg0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2661B1CC6 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:13:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id n12so1175422wgh.0 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:13:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tlrvP9yW7ee7oPpbDGhK6LRzH2Yuv4jDJuzzh9vurC4=; b=Xkl5z41/vP+OOMp9o2vsunLVJk5M3kAIZcxcK+VmK23RHr5BY0uykiPoieOn6beVQf +3ew8t2Jq2tAdhvVp/8ECouDxLaW73h+pPYJXti9o9pZyrjNq+NGSHOrNoJ01GfrbHBO i28iGvrwCKclfPh6uDlyG3nui9lLdSClZqi22swQoBU9LDhJSpXwyrH6hBFvIOP0z3VN EwzDeDeXMC5i8Q2F7bJVJVjKY8jrTrrLIsfmdYQErmLqo54r1GGCbsM6ZgAijy0E03P8 RAKy4FXWeukixd2BllOJYHBnPs71fQcDRu+pzWJRtV5LUpzrU1s2VHaOlSDj8LajZxtZ fv4A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.185.197 with SMTP id fe5mr2455878wic.56.1390925617566; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.189.166 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.189.166 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:13:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:13:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fernando_Apestegu=EDa?= To: Daniel Siechniewicz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:13:39 -0000 El 28/01/2014 16:04, "Daniel Siechniewicz" escribi=F3: > > Hi, > > Just a little stick in this anthill: > > - I've seen a few people volunteering, but so far the reaction seems > to be: "oh, yeah, well, ah, cool". I'd expect, with all the talk about > how much they are needed, that they will be "snatched" immediately and > coerced into doing unspeakable things (like processing a 100 PRs a > day, ensuring high quality testing and all that :) ). I certainly hope > this is happening behind the scenes. > > - Tools are abundant, focusing on github vs. aegis is really just > highjacking this thread. If there's a need for new tool set I suppose > people who actually USE the existing ones for ports will be able to > identify what's needed FOR THEM. Some form of democracy, I guess. > > - Yes, fresh look is very important, but you can't tear down something > without knowing the consequences, which pretty much means not without > in depth knowledge of the existing mechanisms. Not everyone in this > discussion seems to be coming from this perspective. > > - Absolutely, automate the shit out of the process, get rid of stale > PR's (and ports, for that matter), "retire" inactive commiters, etc. > But first and foremost, get some stats out of the system, there's no > point throwing numbers like 50% this, 80% that, if you simply don't > know. Measure, analyze and focus your attention where it gets the most > benefits. +1 I wrote the same thing expecting someone to have a look at gnat's database and collect some numbers > > - And stop petty squabbles. > > > Regards, > Daniel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"