From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 2 01:22:52 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB7A21065693; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 01:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail4.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:6000:6::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2828FC15; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 01:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o021LuwQ027758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:21:57 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 9B9CB1CC0B; Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:21:56 -0800 (PST) To: jhell In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:20:54 EST." <4B3E9166.90809@DataIX.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:21:56 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20100102012156.9B9CB1CC0B@ptavv.es.net> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2010-01-02_01:2009-12-31, 2010-01-02, 2010-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1001010194 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:39:59 +0000 Cc: Ed Schouten , stable@freebsd.org, Oliver Pinter , FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: something fails with svn X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 01:22:53 -0000 > Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:20:54 -0500 > From: jhell > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > On 1/1/2010 6:24 AM, Ed Schouten wrote: > > * jhell wrote: > >> With those remarks I will leave it up to your honed skills to figure out. > > > > If you don't have anything constructive to say, please refrain from > > responding to any message on these lists. The purpose of these lists is > > to help each other. > > > > You know really... I did not see anything that you have replied with to > be constructive criticism "At all". > > And personally if you really want to reply with remarks of "Would you > mind sharing your findings Sherlock Holmes" You can then keep your > comments to your self as I do not find them useful and my name is not > Sherlock Holmes. > > Secondly I would expect a much more intelligent remark to come from > someone with your background but I guess that comes with age. > > So my suggestion in constructiveness to you would be to think harder > before you critique a post of the very same nature as the one you posted. > > As regards to the OP the email was meant as a confirmation to the author > that the problem did lye on his end and that by paying closer attention > to "the paths" that were displayed in the OP would have revealed the > problem. OK. I will try to say something "constructive". You seem to think that "clever", useless comments make you look good. As someone who has been working with FreeBSD and the FreeBSD community for a long time, all you really do is make yourself look juvenile, arrogant, and rude. You are a prime example of why many people approaching the FreeBSD community for help claim that we are an arrogant and rude bunch. The information content of your messages approaches zero. Maybe the problem is trivial and obvious to you. Maybe it would be to Ed, if he could spot it. Now, if you have never missed an obvious bug until you asked someone why the code would not work, you are either truly exceptional (along with the adjectives listed above) or have written little or no code of your own. Please either provide reasonable assistance when responding to questions or don't reply at all. No one likes a smart ass, -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751