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[88.159.67.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e45sm3350368eeb.6.2012.05.31.03.38.08 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 31 May 2012 03:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FC74A01.90307@zzattack.org> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 12:37:53 +0200 From: Frank Razenberg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <4FC742BF.4080005@my.gd>, <20120531102127.GV39168@e-new.0x20.net> <5A58FAE7-F176-4E69-9460-6DDB12064BAE@alogis.com> In-Reply-To: <5A58FAE7-F176-4E69-9460-6DDB12064BAE@alogis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQng8gRvK1okEzvmZ4Qvdphl1C5mHLGL3fkcMeBs8ve09Ku7RmyC5az7DKap2r2NypNOXQa8 Subject: Re: Why Are You Using FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:38:40 -0000 In no specific order, for me they are: - Rock solid stability, not only in base-system but also in ports. - The completeness of the ports system and helpfulness of the maintainers. - ZFS Frank On 5/31/2012 12:32 PM, Holger Kipp wrote: > Hi, > > Am 31.05.2012 um 12:24 schrieb "Lars Engels": > >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:06:55PM +0200, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >>> >>> On 5/30/12 8:20 PM, David Chisnall wrote: >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> This is off-topic, so please feel free to disregard it, but I'm sending it to this list in the hope that it will reach a largish number of users. >>>> >>>> I am currently looking at updating some of our advocacy material (which advertises exciting new features like SMP support), and before I do I'd like to get a better feel for why the rest of you are using FreeBSD. If you had to list the three things you most like about FreeBSD, which would you pick? Are they the same as when you first started using it? >>>> >>>> David >>> >>> >>> We're using FreeBSD here only for firewall boxes. >>> >>> >>> Reasons for using FBSD for firewalls: >>> - CARP >>> - relayd >>> - PF >>> - pfsync >>> >>> Reasons I can't get management to use FBSD for regular servers (web, >>> haproxy, db...): >>> - "hard" to use >>> - update process is "hard", time-consuming and annoying (as opposed to >>> debian's for example) >>> >>> A regular debian update is 5 minutes + reboot >>> A regular FBSD update is about 1.5 hour + 3 reboots (after >>> installkernel, installworld, rebuild of ports) >> >> But how often do you need to update? > > That reminds me - there is still a 2.2.8 system up and running that needs to be replaced ;-) > > For a server farm, one can use a central server who provides all packages that need to be upgraded, so it is usually only one system that needs a longer time. All others just mount the directories and install/upgrade using compiled world and /usr/ports/packages/All :-) > > Nice and easy. > > Best regards, > Holger > > > -- > Holger Kipp > Diplom-Mathematiker > Senior Consultant > > Tel. : +49 30 436 58 114 > Fax. : +49 30 436 58 214 > Mobil: +49 178 36 58 114 > Email: holger.kipp@alogis.com > > alogis AG > Alt-Moabit 90b > D-10559 Berlin > > web : http://www.alogis.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > alogis AG > Sitz/Registergericht: Berlin/AG Charlottenburg, HRB 71484 > Vorstand: Arne Friedrichs, Joern Samuelson > Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Reinhard Mielke > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"