From owner-cvs-all Wed Jun 23 0: 9:29 1999 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BE815547; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:09:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA19291; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:39:22 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id QAA83427; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:39:28 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:39:28 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: Mark Newton , hm@hcs.de, nick.hibma@jrc.it, dfr@nlsystems.com, peter@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Microsoft performance (was: All this and documentation too? (was: cvs commit: src/sys/isa sio.c)) Message-ID: <19990623163928.E581@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990623084919.R76907@freebie.lemis.com> <199906230652.XAA00630@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906230652.XAA00630@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Tue, Jun 22, 1999 at 11:52:25PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tuesday, 22 June 1999 at 23:52:25 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >>>> In case FreeBSD wants to enter commercial environments, we have to behave >>>> like behaving in commercial environments. >>> >>> Ok, so let's follow Microsoft's industry-leading documentation standards. >> >> He said "commercial", not "toy". > > Given that I've just spent a very unhappy couple of weeks demonstrating > that this "toy" you're referring to outperforms us by a factor of > anything from 3 to 10 on a range of basic benchmarks, Really? This is so different from anything I've heard that I'm astounded. How about some details? > and has hundreds of developer-oriented books on the shelves in every > major bookstore in the developed world, I think your position is > perhaps slightly less than tenable here. If that's a given, yes. > But Mark illustrates my point perfectly; developers don't write > documentation. That's what camp followers are for. So far, we have > the ones that whine about the loot and throw mud at us when we march > too slowly, but not enough of the ones that sew our banners, mend our > pots and pans, or teach our version of the gospel to the heathens we > subdue. You can never get enough of them. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message