Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:14:00 +0200 From: The Unicorn <unicorn@blackhats.org> To: Bill Fumerola <billf@mu.org> Cc: Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>, "David W. Chapman Jr." <dwcjr@inethouston.net>, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvsup trouble Message-ID: <20010522091400.D31941@unicorn.blackhats.org> In-Reply-To: <20010521184906.U37979@elvis.mu.org>; from billf@mu.org on Mon, May 21, 2001 at 06:49:06PM -0500 References: <20010521214919.A31941@unicorn.blackhats.org> <20010521144853.E19376@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <038701c0e230$68eacda0$931576d8@inethouston.net> <20010521145718.F19376@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010521184906.U37979@elvis.mu.org>
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Hi Bill,
On Mon, 21 May 2001, Bill Fumerola supposedly wrote:
> [ cvs-committers moved to bcc: ]
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:57:18PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote:
> > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 02:58:31PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
> > > As posted before, that does not work, try doing that and then cvsupping
> > > twice in a row. you have to delete your checkouts file to fix it.
> >
> > Someone mentioned that just removing the "files" line in the checkouts
> > file would fix it.. of course, I don't use cvsup anymore. :-)
>
> If you don't use it then why offer (mis-)information about it? Just Press 'D'.
He, for one, did correct the problem.
> In any event, Mr. Unicorn[1], please avoid using cvs-committers@ as your
> personal help mailing list. questions@freebsd.org is comprised of lots of
> people who would like to help with these kinds of questions.
This being the exact kind of mail why so many potential users refrain
from continuing to use FreeBSD as their Operating System triggered me to
reply to your message. Most of them turning eventually to Linux after
getting a similar treatment from the OpenBSD community. You do not even
try to formulate a possible answer, but only tell people what not to do,
and reroute the question to another mailinglist, while a possible
solution and a reroute would be so much more helpful. I might possibly
use questions@freebsd.org in the future should another problem arise, so
your hint has not been shouted at deaf ears.
I am sorry to use the cvs-commiters list as "my personal help mailing
list", but in my reasoning it does contain all cvs-committers who are
"responsible" for creating the problem in the first place, so what
better way than to ask for a little help at the source. I might even
learn something in the process. Secondly I did try to resolve the
problem before posting the message (I always do), but failed and at that
time I could not find a possible solution in, to me, available
resources.
To answer your personal question. My name is Hans Van de Looy, chairman
of the Dutch FreeBSD User Group, trying to evangelize the use of FreeBSD
(and OpenBSD and NetBSD for those platforms not supported yet by the
FreeBSD product) in the Netherlands (although we also have people from
Belgium joining our events). I do appreciate your work on the FreeBSD
product a lot, as I do everybody elses work as well, but email messages
like these do not make my "job" any easier. ;-)
> --
> Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc.
> - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org
>
> 1. we really like real names around these parts, btw.
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BTW. Thanks again to all the others who did provide me with some
pointers to a (possible) solution. It worked out. Now I am going to read
why this manual intervention had to take place in the first place... :-)
Ciao,
Unicorn.
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