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Date:      Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:07:40 +1100 (EST)
From:      Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
To:        =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        Janne Snabb <snabb@epipe.com>, khatfield@socllc.net, Mark Felder <feld@feld.me>, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-security@freebsd.org, James Howlett <jim.howlett@outlook.com>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD DDoS protection
Message-ID:  <20130213210141.F71572@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
In-Reply-To: <86halg4nzj.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:28:00 +0100, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
 > Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> writes:
 > > Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@des.no> writes:
 > >  > Slight correction: dropping *all* ICMP is a bad idea.  You can get by 
 > >  > with just unreach.  Add timex, echoreq and echorep for troubleshooting.
 > > rc.firewall, phk@? has long recommended 3,4,11 as "essential" icmptypes.  
 > > Are there any negative security implications to including source quench?
 > 
 > See RFC 6633 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6633) and the literature it
 > references, particularly RFC 5927 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5927).
 > TL;DR: they were a bad idea to begin with, and nobody implements them
 > anyway.

Fair enough, thanks for the refs, I'm just so out of date .. still 
chewing on the second and I have a nice fresh icmp-parameters.txt

cheers, Ian
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