From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 7 00:02:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9C86C9 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) Received: from duck.symmetricom.us (duck.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430E98FC0C for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org (daffy.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.218]) by duck.symmetricom.us (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qA7020d5074331 for ; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:02:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id qA701w6c013951; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:01:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org) Subject: Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-) From: Ian Lepore To: CeDeROM In-Reply-To: References: <201211062158.qA6Lvt2l039276@fire.js.berklix.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 17:01:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1352246518.17290.22.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 00:02:13 -0000 On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 00:34 +0100, CeDeROM wrote: > Isn't this a Xorg bug then? When I have no configuration file Hal > should > provide the configuration, so sooner or later the mouse should start > moving... but is does not.. > > Do I get http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/aei.html correct > that > when I am using xorg.conf there is no need for Hal and when I am using > Hal > there is no need for xorg.conf? > > Thanks :-) I think that is true in general, usually you have one or the other. There are times when you need an xorg.conf and you may have hald running for other reasons, and then you have to get them to play nice together. I had that situation at one time (I needed to customize something about my monitor that wasn't auto-detected), but now it just works for me without any xorg.conf. When I did have both, turning off AutoAddDevices and configuring sysmouse as the input device worked for me (but that was on 8.x, not 9.x, and probably an older port of the X server). I've also seen a couple sites recommend turning off AutoAddDevices if you manually configure the mouse without mentioning hal specifically. They just say things like "X will automatically find your mouse unless you turn off AutoAddDevices." It's unclear to me whether X is able to do that without hal, or maybe those statements are just glossing over important details to keep the explanation simple. -- Ian