From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 8 19:49:02 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B58416A4CE; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp3.sentex.ca (smtp3.sentex.ca [64.7.153.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B463143D1D; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:49:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smtp2.sentex.ca (smtp2c.sentex.ca [64.7.153.30]) by smtp3.sentex.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i293muOp070550; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:49:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smtp2.sentex.ca (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id i293mtpd099669; Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:48:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Jeffrey Hsu Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 22:49:06 -0500 Message-ID: <30fq405i2avcsqbfbpsdi18uevl193527u@4ax.com> References: of "Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:56:42 PST." <20040308105641.A47564@xorpc.icir.org> <200403082325.i28NPAa3010399@mtaw6.prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <200403082325.i28NPAa3010399@mtaw6.prodigy.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 05:04:11 -0800 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Who wants SACK? (Re: was My planned work on networking stack) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 03:49:02 -0000 On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 15:32:37 -0800, in sentex.lists.freebsd.current you wrote: > >> I know that our organization would love to see SACK. Much of the > >> high-performance network development that used to be on FreeBSD has > >> moved to Linux simply because SACK is essential. You can't run > >> trans-oceanic TCP streams of gigabit or more throughput without it. > > > > Whenever i hear these comments, i am very annoyed at one thing > > (which in a smaller scale repeats all over the place): > > people are more than happy to spend big money for things like > > routers or bandwidth or any kind of "commercial" stuff, but when > > it comes to open source it must be free or nothing. > > > > I hope it is clear to everyone that an investment in the 50K$ > > range would provide a professional-grade implementation of SACK > > for FreeBSD, and this money is in the noise for any organization > > that uses trans-oceanic gigabit links. > > The fact that nobody seems to care about funding such a work > > either means that whatever is available already fits their > >What Luigi says is absolutely correct. It doesn't take a lot to >get this done.=20 We (Sentex) recently sponsored bms@freebsd.org to implement RFC 2385 for a bargin price. We were faced with the choice to spend the money on one cisco router or fund the development... It was a no brainer. >Perhaps if we could pool enough interest, we can raise enough to >put this issue to rest once and for all. We dont have the funds to underwrite all of it, but would contribute. ---Mike