From owner-freebsd-security Wed Jul 30 21:12:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA00431 for security-outgoing; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwsys.cwent.com (66@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca [142.31.240.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00393 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwent.com (8.8.6/8.6.10) id VAA02443; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707310410.VAA02443@cwsys.cwent.com> Received: from localhost.cwent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwent.com, id smtpd002438; Thu Jul 31 04:10:46 1997 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 Reply-to: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca To: Vincent Poy cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Marco Molteni , security@freebsd.org, "[Mario1-]" , JbHunt Subject: Re: security hole in FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 Jul 1997 16:04:24 PDT." <14957.870303864@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 21:10:46 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > know everything and will need to learn from others. Unless everyone is > > Albert Einstein here. > > It's not what you know, it's how you learn. Be more willing to > investigate the obvious before you run to the mailing lists for help > and you'll go much further here, Vince. Lack of proper "invesigative > skills" is your biggest weakness, as I've amply seen while observing > you these last couple of years, and you won't hone this skill by > asking questions, you'll hone it by spending just a little extra time > on each problem before bringing up that email client. > > Jordan > Jordan makes a lot of sense here. About 25 years ago a Computing Science teacher of mine told me that people either get it or they don't. In her experience, all class marks could be plotted on an inverted bell curve: Many people would get 80-100% and many would get 0-30% while hardly anyone would get 31-79%. She didn't go on to explain why this was so, however Jordan's remarks are probably one of the reasons. During the years since hearing that remark, I've had to agree with that teacher (and Jordan) many times and this is one of those times. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 UNIX Support OV/VM: BCSC02(CSCHUBER) ITSD BITNET: CSCHUBER@BCSC02.BITNET Government of BC Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca cschuber@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca "Quit spooling around, JES do it."