From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Jan 11 11:53:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D368337B699; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0BJqJ112120; Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:52:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010111110903.B90221@rfx-64-6-211-149.users.reflexco> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:52:43 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Subject: Re: sysinstall.8 Breaking buildworld Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org, Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-Jan-01 Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 10:53:43AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> On 11-Jan-01 Jordan Hubbard wrote: >> >> My personal opinion is that sysinstall.8 is a part of the base system >> >> and shouldn't be optional. If we take your suggestion, it means that >> >> installworld will sometimes install this manpage and sometimes it won't. >> > >> > I think we should simply move the stupid man page into man8. It's a bit >> > weird to have a man page and its utility live in seperate places, but >> > the release/ directory in the hierarchy has always been a red-headed >> > stepchild in any case. If I had it to do over, it would have all gone >> > into /usr/src/sbin somewhere. >> >> Let's put sysinstall back in sbin/ then. It _used_ to live there until >> someone >> moved it. :) >> >> -r--r--r-- 1 root src 62356 Dec 30 1995 >> /usr/cvs/src/sbin/sysinstall/Attic/sysinstall.c,v > > I had assumed that sysinstall was not part of the standard > installworld for recovery purposes. That is, if a > buildworld-installworld were to totally hose your system (but of > course that _never_ happens), you would still have a reliable > /stand/sysinstall uncorrupted by the errant installworld to aid in > fixing things. Erm, many things live in both /stand and other places: > ll /stand/ | wc -l 35 > ll /stand/rm /bin/rm -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 255736 Jan 9 08:17 /bin/rm -r-xr-xr-x 31 root wheel 1729520 Jul 28 07:32 /stand/rm Putting it in world wouldn't touch /stand, it would just add it to either /usr/sbin or /sbin and keep that copy updated. > Again, this is just what I assumed the reason for the design to > be. And I have never actually used sysinstall to recover a hosed > upgrade, I like the fixit.flp. > > But IMHO, either both /stand/sysinstall and sysinstall.8 get installed > when building world or neither do. To me, that seems clear cut. I vote for both, but not to touch /stand. We don't keep rm.1 in sync with /stand/rm, we keep it in sync with /bin/rm, so this seems to be the most consistent.. > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message