From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 11 20:47:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB1D9897 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from land.berklix.org (land.berklix.org [144.76.10.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D4BF23B for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mart.js.berklix.net (p5DCBF557.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.203.245.87]) (authenticated bits=128) by land.berklix.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s8BKiuD5035510; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:44:56 GMT (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by mart.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s8BKlImx009836; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:47:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s8BKksmq094978; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:47:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.com) Message-Id: <201409112047.s8BKksmq094978@fire.js.berklix.net> To: Polytropon Subject: Re: sending fax From: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultants, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://www.berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:56:42 +0200." <20140911175642.6690e23b.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:46:54 +0200 Cc: questions@freebsd.org, tyler@tysdomain.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:47:44 -0000 Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:12:33 -0400, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > > I keep having to send faxes to people who really should accept emails > > instead but don't. I'm in a dorm and have no clue where a phone line > > would even be connected, even if I had a modem to use. I was wondering > > if there's a way to do this through BSD? Just prepare the fax somehow on > > the desktop side and let BSD send it off? I could get a number from any > > number of places I think and just use that as my outbound. Any ideas/etc > > would be awesome. > > I've been "inventing" something like that more than a decade > ago: You send an e-mail with a PDF attachment to a specific > address, e. g. fax@example.com, then specify the fax number > in the subject. A remote server, connected to a serial modem > (connected to a phone line with a fax number) would then send > it, using Hylafax. Long ago when I created /usr/ports/comms/hylafax/ there was a public service that did roughly that, at least for email to fax transmission, not fax to email reception; Nodes in various countries. It was sponsored by prepending advertising in 1st half page of fax. I considered setting up a node, but didn't as: - I was concerned about legal issues that could relate to unsolicited faxes, that could be used for harassment, porn, banned political agitation/propaganda, or just plain bulk advertising by 3rd parties, consuming a lot of phone bill (flat rate phone calls didn't exist in Germany back then I recall. - I'm British, but in Germany, & German law strikes me as weird in some ways (best discussed over a beer ;-) so I avoided legal minefields best navigated by born natives of the country. - Seemed it might also be a lot of time consuming tedious work to run, with legalistic complaint/ correspondence in to me foreign German language, dealing with clueless recipients/ complainers. - Advertising to general public was of no benefit to my Unix consultancy business. - Running a node to carry advertising space sellable to others would have been more interesting, but perhaps at risk of greater liability. If people in various countries have the native lanuage of their country of residence, & brave enough to risk their legal issues & have spare secretarial support time to spend dealing with general public, then by all means see if that service project is still active & if so, set up an extra mail to fax node using Hylafax. There were references to that service project either in the Hylafax sources &/ or on http://www.hylafax.org which is where I discovered it long ago. Tyler's question seems to have nothing intrincicly requiring FreeBSD, just looking for a fax service, so he'd be better asking on a mail list here: http://www.hylafax.org/content/Support > I'm quite sure there is an online service that you can use > which implements something comparable, usually through a > web interface. Yes Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix C Sys Eng Consultant Munich http://berklix.com Interleave replies Below, like a play script.