From owner-freebsd-chat Sun May 17 22:18:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06986 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 22:18:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06820 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 22:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA05439; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:47:19 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980518144719.N427@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:47:19 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Wes Peters Cc: Dan Janowski , Bret Ford , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SCO offers Ancient Unix Source Code License References: <355FB8AD.E2779CDB@softweyr.com> <19980518144056.A5363@freebie.lemis.com> <355FC3BE.5F9C8BAB@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <355FC3BE.5F9C8BAB@softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Sun, May 17, 1998 at 11:14:39PM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 17 May 1998 at 23:14:39 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> On Sun, 17 May 1998 at 22:27:25 -0600, Wes Peters wrote: >>> Dan Janowski wrote: >>>> >>>> I used to work on old SGI 3130's and when those >>>> geometry engines were really working, you could hear >>>> some very high pitched harmonic sounds eminating >>>> from the box, seemingly right from the chips, >>>> although this was difficult to confirm. >>> >>> I cut my 3D teeth on a 4D/60GT, later upgraded to a 4D/70. The >>> funny high pitched noise actually came from the capacitors in the >>> power supply; the current draw of the Geometry Pipeline would pull >>> enough current through them to start the squeal. I helped install >>> these machines in South Dakota; on cold (COLD COLD COLD!) winter >>> days we would come into work, take our shoes off, and fire up the >>> 'drip' demo to warm our toes and ankles. The 4D's had an 18-inch >>> long squirrel-cage fan that would blow 180F air when the drip demo >>> was running. ;^) >> >> I was offered one of those a couple of years ago. Quite an impressive >> machine. I took a 4D/20 instead (I think. It's a Control Data OEM >> version, and the name written on it is "Cyber 910". R3000, about 20 >> MHz, 16 MB of memory, IRIX 5.3. I've compared building software on it >> and on a P5/133. You can build bash on the P5 in about 90 seconds, on >> the 4D/20 it takes 40 minutes :-( > > Yeah, but does your P5/133 have multi-player dogfight? I thought not. > You should've taken the 4D/70. The 4D/20 (also known as the Personal > Iris) had quite bit more CPU power -- the 4D/70 was a 12.5 Mhz R2000, > but the 4D/70 had the full Geometry Pipeline engine, as opposed to > the stripped-down video in the /20. Of course, you probably couldn't > afford the power for the 4D/70, it required 220VAC and drew more power > than an electric clothes dryer. ;^) I thought about it, but I had two basic problems: 1. It was more money than I wanted to spend. 2. I didn't know how to get it in my car, especially as (for some strange reason) I already had a borzoi in there. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message