From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 5 14:56:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptialaska.net (mail.ptialaska.net [198.70.245.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C9B37BCA2 for ; Fri, 5 May 2000 14:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ptialaska.net) Received: from vizion2000 (dialups-56.sitka.ptialaska.net [198.70.227.56]) by ptialaska.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA20354; Fri, 5 May 2000 13:54:40 -0800 (AKDT) Message-ID: <005001bfb6dc$191c2b00$38e346c6@demon.co.uk> From: "Southwell" To: "Coleman Kane" Cc: References: <200004131608.JAA28324@mass.cdrom.com> <00d701bfa59c$b95b1aa0$82e346c6@demon.co.uk> <20000413194645.A7655@cokane.yi.org> Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:51:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Southwell" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been following the linux Ieee 1394 list and the following snippet seems to digest in a few words the conclusion I reached after researching the license situation. > Your reasoning is accurate -- the 25 cents is *per system* -- that is, if > you add a 1394 board to your PC, or if you buy a PC with a 1394 chip, > you've paid the fee. So there is no need to worry about the fee for > drivers and low level software written for 1394 devices. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Coleman Kane" To: "Southwell" Cc: "Mike Smith" ; Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 3:46 PM Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support > Can you get any docs on this at all? Maybe from VIA, the new KX133 chipsets have > support for 1394, perhaps there exists documentation for their implementation? > > -- > ck > > Southwell had the audacity to say: > > > > Hi > > > > I posted a query relating to Firewire support and Mike came back with the > > awful news that he felt the field was so laced with patents that it was not > > worth trying.. > > I am quite interested in seeing if a way round the problems can be found - > > does anyone have any pointers. > > > > What I felt would be useful would be to try to support either the Texas > > Instruments IEEE 1394 OCHI compliant controller or some of the other cards > > that are available. (I have an on board TI chip). Does anyone have a link to > > some information that can identify the patent problems Mike referred to? > > > > Initially I would like to be able to get a "simple" capture program that > > would generate either AVI Type 1 or Type 2 files from a camcorder. > > > > Are the problems as insurmountable as Mike seems to feel they are? > > > > David > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Smith" > > To: "Southwell" > > Cc: > > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:08 AM > > Subject: Re: IEEE 1394 support > > > > > > > > Is any one working on firewire (IEEE 1394) support for camcorders? > > > > > > No; the field is laced with patents which prevent any really useful work > > > being done. You might as well ignore firewire for the time being. > > > > > > -- > > > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > > > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > > > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message