From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Sep 4 20:45:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CE437B400 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jive.SoftHome.net (jive.SoftHome.net [66.54.152.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA0E143E3B for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yid@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 15888 invoked by uid 417); 5 Sep 2002 03:45:30 -0000 Received: from shunt-smtp-out-0 (HELO softhome.net) (172.16.3.12) by shunt-smtp-out-0 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2002 03:45:30 -0000 Received: from planb ([216.194.4.17]) (AUTH: LOGIN yid@softhome.net) by softhome.net with esmtp; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 21:45:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 23:44:25 -0400 From: Joshua Lee To: "Neal E. Westfall" Cc: tlambert2@mindspring.com, dave@jetcafe.org, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-Id: <20020904234425.669b500a.yid@softhome.net> In-Reply-To: <20020904120659.L88455-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> References: <20020904021149.10d2e0f4.yid@softhome.net> <20020904120659.L88455-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> Organization: Plan B Software Labs X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.2claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:14:08 -0700 (PDT) "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > > > "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: > > > > You guys are quite amusing to read! The only thing you can > > > > agree on is your anemic prejudices against theology. > > > > Actually, we weren't talking much about theology until you took > > offense at the subject line. > > You misunderstand, sir. No offense taken. Just a friendly little > conversation. Evolution has certain implied theological committments, > however, so it seemed appropriate to "seize the moment", if you will. Tellihard De Chardin seems to do a good job at being a theist of your stripe and accepting the theory of evolution at the same time; somewhat earlier, Chief Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook seemed to incorporate evolution and other "heretical" ideas into his unique theological reconcilliation of modern thought and Orthodoxy. Again, as an Orthodox Jew, I'm not an "evolutionist", but I think it's somewhat dishonest to label a scientific theory as a religion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message