From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 4 11:30: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shark.amis.net (shark.amis.net [212.18.32.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4453F37B403 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baracuda.amis.net (baracuda.amis.net [212.18.32.4]) by shark.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82A47D3C; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:29:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by baracuda.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075449B07; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:29:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.42.5]) by baracuda.amis.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1879B05; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 64C6C55422; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4CD55421; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:29:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:29:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan X-X-Sender: To: Lyndon Nerenberg Cc: Subject: Re: uucp user shell and home directory In-Reply-To: <200110041814.f94IEn8f038432@atg.aciworldwide.com> Message-ID: <20011004202723.X42483-100000@titanic.medinet.si> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Again I ask: if maintenance is an issue, why would you not even > attempt to find a maintainer? How do you "find a maintainer"? Do you run a contest on your favourite TV channel or what? Maintainers appear by themselves or they don't. Considering how long UUCP has been unmaintained, they don't in this case. > 1) Remove all the network interfaces from your system (Ethernet, > PPP, SL/IP, etc). > > 2) cd into /usr/ports and try to build UUCP. Now ask yourself, how you have installed FreeBSD on this system. > Unless you have a prepopulated /usr/ports/distfiles, it won't work. > Requiring IP connectivity to bootstrap software on a machine > that doesn't have IP connectivity is a non-starter. Yes, you can > install from the CDROM, but there will always be cases where you > can't do this (media errors, lack of CD, etc.) pkg_add freebsd-uucp.tgz If you can't do that from floppy/CD, then you can't install FreeBSD as well, so you don't have a problem. > However my underlying argument still remains that nothing is being > done to address the actual problem. I.e., people are going out of > their way to see the problem NOT get fixed. There's an issue of > principal at stake here, and I really don't like the precedent that > is being set by this move. What are *you* doing to address the problem? Are you stepping up as a maintainer? Are you willing to fix the problems with UUCP in FreeBSD as it is? How much time are you willing to contribute? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message