From owner-freebsd-java Wed Mar 3 14: 6:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB8DD1560C for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 14:05:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA59183; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:03:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:03:29 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Nate Williams Cc: bsletten@nova.org, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AOUT/ELF In-Reply-To: <199903032136.OAA14551@mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Nate Williams wrote: > This is true, but it is not David and Phillipe's (sp?) attempt to be > more picky than javac. For example, I sent in a bug report for 0.44 > that caused them to 'unfix' a change they made due to their reading of > the specification differently than javac. Apparently (since it works > like javac again in 0.45) they must feel that javac implementation is > 'correct'. > > When it's obvious that jikes is correct and javac isn't (based on > reading the specification), or when they are unsure which of the two is > correct, they send email to Sun for enlightenment. Apparently javac has > been modified from a couple of these emails. :) > > My only fear is that jikes will become less useful as a 'java' > compiler. Because it is open-source, there have already been a number > of requests to 'extend' Java language with new (useful) features. I couldn't possibly agree more. The folks want to add enough features until it's no longer a small language ... folks who love adding more and more "elegance", no matter how uncomplicated and unpredictable the results get. > Unfortunately, as we've seen with gcc, the resulting 'language' is no > longer 'C', and is instead 'Gnu-C'. > > Fortunately, the IBM guys have been good about rejecting such changes, > but I think it's only a matter of time before it diverges into a new > language. > > > > > Nate > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message