From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 30 15:26:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACE037B401 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org [64.239.180.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357B243ED1 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:26:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gBUNPh176368; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:25:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org) Message-Id: <200212302325.gBUNPh176368@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Terry Lambert Cc: dever@getaclue.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bystander shot by a spam filter. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:25:38 -0800 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert writes: > SPAM is a systems engineering problem. No more or no less. Perhaps, but the existence of anti-spammer zealots is an age old human problem. Religious zealotry is a part of the human meme I guess. > Human beings don't have the intellectual freedom to be able > to ignore gravity or inertia; so this make them robots? You attempt to weaken the letter of my point without paying attention to the spirit of it. Attempting to force you to understand the spirit of it by responding to your attempt to whittle away at the letter is futile, you don't seem to understand it nor do I think you will even if I craft a logio-mathematical proof. See? =) > If the SPAM enforcement was an emergent property of the system > used to communicate SPAM -- and other information -- then not > sending SPAM would be as natural as not walking down the street, > suspended six inches in the air. Oh lord, let us woe the day that content is used as a means of determining which email is to be transported and which is not. ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, let'em go, because, man, they're gone. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message