From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 13 16:51:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from celery.dragondata.com (celery.dragondata.com [205.253.12.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D604615195 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:51:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toasty@celery.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by celery.dragondata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA38415; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:26:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from toasty) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199907112026.PAA38415@celery.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: a BSD identd In-Reply-To: from John Polstra at "Jul 11, 1999 01:19:18 pm" To: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:26:50 -0500 (CDT) Cc: Doug@gorean.org (Doug), hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Doug wrote: > > John Polstra wrote: > >> > >> Are you sure? If you simply don't run an identd, the queries will > >> get an instant connection refused error. That's even faster than > >> sending back a bogus response. > > > > Many daemons that request ident, and almost all IRC daemons > > that I'm aware of don't take "NO" for an answer. They sit waiting > > for a valid response, and timeout after X seconds, where X is c. 30 > > seconds. > > Really?? Even though their connect() call failed? Ick! I know > sendmail doesn't behave that way. I'll take your word about the IRC > daemons -- I don't know anything about them. > > > Whether this behavior is good or not begs the question, > > Agreed. Every ircd i've ever seen will immediately return on a connection refused response. With ident: [15:22] -irc.dragondata.com- Looking up your hostname... [15:22] -irc.dragondata.com- Found your hostname, cached [15:22] -irc.dragondata.com- Checking Ident *** Identd request from 204.137.237.3 *** Identd replied: 1063, 4242 : USERID : UNIX : toasty [15:22] -irc.dragondata.com- Got Ident response PING? PONG! Welcome to Newnet Toasty9 Your host is irc.dragondata.com, running version nn-1.3devel.tmnotefix.noudpspam.hnam Elapsed time was less than 1 second. With no ident: [15:21] -irc.dragondata.com- Looking up your hostname... [15:21] -irc.dragondata.com- Checking Ident [15:21] -irc.dragondata.com- Found your hostname ToastyMan Nickname is already in use. PING? PONG! Welcome to Newnet Toasty9 Your host is irc.dragondata.com, running version nn-1.3devel.tmnotefix.noudpspam.hnam Elapsed time was less than 1 second. (I just tested this in NewNet, DALnet, EFnet, and Undernet) The only time I see it sitting there for 30 seconds is if ircd gets no response at all back, (no 'connection refused') Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message