From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 03:11:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E21837B401; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hannibal.servitor.co.uk (hannibal.servitor.co.uk [195.188.15.48]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5308E43F85; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@hannibal.servitor.co.uk) Received: from paul by hannibal.servitor.co.uk with local (Exim 4.14) id 19TIsC-0003fh-Uc; Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:12:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:12:00 +0100 From: Paul Robinson To: Terry Lambert Message-ID: <20030620101200.GA14047@iconoplex.co.uk> References: <3EEF00E4.9000908@freebsd.mheller.org> <20030617.060806.42773474.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030618023138.GE93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20030617.204100.122615446.imp@bsdimp.com> <20030618034838.GJ93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3EF0331A.2F2CF1DB@mindspring.com> <20030619003054.GC93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3EF17471.36CC59B9@mindspring.com> <20030619090332.GO93137@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3EF29286.99CF131D@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EF29286.99CF131D@mindspring.com> Sender: Paul Robinson cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: English Police Officers (was Re: Interview in Byte with Chris Sontag/SCO and FUD relating toBSDsettlement agreement) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:11:51 -0000 On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:50:14PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Like the English policeman, they were alarmed > when they thought about it, but about all they could contractually > do was say "Stop! Or we'll ask you to 'Stop!' again!". Sorry to go off on a tangent (follow-up set to -chat), but as somebody known to be English, I have to defend (if that's the right word) the nastiness of my local law enfocement officers. Although they mostly don't carry guns, they do carry big sticks, pepper spray and handcuffs and there are riot police on every division quite happy to give you a damned good thrashing. In fact the main problem we have is that they seem to like going around killing people, including one guy who they shot because he had a chair leg in a bag which they had been "reliably informed" was a shotgun, and it would seem they don't care much about finding the killers of anybody shot whose skin colour is not... shall we say.. "pale"? Oh, and in Manchester, some specially trained police have been walking around with MP5 machine guns, on and off, for at least the last 10 years that I remember. Something to do with a couple of Irish lads who keep on trying to kill loads of civilians in offices and shopping malls. But let's not get into that (5,000 dead so far), the point is, they have the same guns the British Army carry. And they're scary. So, although I'd love English life to go back to the village bobby on his bicycle chasing after a villain in a black and white stripy shirt and a bag over his shoulder with "SWAG" written on it, the policeman shouting "stop you rotter! stop or I'll get jolly angry!", I'm afraid those days are gone. In Manchester at least, if you're a naughty boy and you get caught, it's 16/1 you're going to spend time in hospital straight away, and about 5/1 you won't make it out of prison without having a go at killing yourself. -- Paul Robinson