From owner-freebsd-chat Fri May 24 8:33:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7C637B404; Fri, 24 May 2002 08:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g4OFXXp85299 ; Fri, 24 May 2002 17:33:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id RAA06702 ; Fri, 24 May 2002 17:33:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 17:33:31 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Marc Ramirez Cc: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , Brad Knowles , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: French, Flemish and English (was: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha clock.c) Message-ID: <20020524173331.A5683@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20020522182914.I45715@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020524110009.T21090-100000@mrami.homeunix.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020524110009.T21090-100000@mrami.homeunix.org>; from mrami@mrami.homeunix.org on Fri, May 24, 2002 at 11:12:40AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc Ramirez said on May 24, 2002 at 11:12:40: > If we're talking about repeating a spoken word, it again goes through two > filters: 1) what sounds am I used to differentiating, and 2) what sounds > am I used to making. To demonstrate #1, my Dad cannot hear the difference > between Sri Lanka (pronounced 'sree') and Sri Lanka (pronounced 'shree'). > He is not used to trying to tell the difference, because that is not a > minimal pair in his ideolect of American English, the only dialect he > speaks. Therefore when he says Sri Lanka, it always comes out 'shree', > which is one of the many differences from what a native would say. I don't know how Sri Lankans say it, but most people in India would say "shree". In the devanagari script (which is used for Sanskrit, which is where the word originates) the corresponding letter is one of the two "sh" letters to which I referred earlier (the "s" letter is different). In the Tamil script, the same letter serves for "s", "sh", and "ch" (though there is are special letters sometimes used for "s" and "sh" in words imported from Sanskrit), and Tamil speakers tend to use the three sounds interchangeably. I don't know about Sinhalese, which uses a quite different script, though (visually, at least) closer to Tamil than to Devanagari. - Rahul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message