From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 21:29:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC60106566C; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from mail.zoral.com.ua (skuns.zoral.com.ua [91.193.166.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69AA8FC08; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by mail.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n5ULTaJf088717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:29:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5ULTaH1056356; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:29:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5ULTa4n056355; Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:29:36 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:29:36 +0300 From: Kostik Belousov To: Marc Balmer Message-ID: <20090630212936.GC2884@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <200906301851.n5UIpNJQ089171@svn.freebsd.org> <4A4A626A.4080801@freebsd.org> <5A796102-063B-4032-92C9-EC97AF2E5D5B@msys.ch> <4A4A7F0B.1010001@freebsd.org> <70EA13C9-997D-488D-83D6-06D603B76D11@msys.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nxoMry5nym+Z12ly" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <70EA13C9-997D-488D-83D6-06D603B76D11@msys.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Sam Leffler , Martin Blapp , src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r195200 - in head/usr.sbin: . wake X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:29:41 -0000 --nxoMry5nym+Z12ly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:25:56PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote: >=20 > Am 30.06.2009 um 23:09 schrieb Sam Leffler: >=20 > >Marc Balmer wrote: > >> > >>Am 30.06.2009 um 21:07 schrieb Sam Leffler: > >> > >>>Martin Blapp wrote: > >>>>Author: mbr > >>>>Date: Tue Jun 30 18:51:22 2009 > >>>>New Revision: 195200 > >>>>URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/195200 > >>>> > >>>>Log: > >>>>Add wake, a tool to send Wake on LAN frames to hosts on a local =20 > >>>>Ethernet network > >>>> Submitted by: Marc Balmer > >>>>Reviewed by: rwatson > >>>>Approved by: re > >>>> > >>> > >>>what's wrong with ports/net/wol? > >>> > >> > >>wake(8) is smaller and it is actually something needed in base. in =20 > >>modern, ecological "green computing" environments we put the client =20 > >>machines, like our POS terminals to sleep at night. In the =20 > >>morning, a cronjob from the central server wakes up all machines =20 > >>using this command. more and more systems support it, so havin a =20 > >>wake command in base is just about right. > >> > >> > >The typical way things happen in freebsd is we promote tools from =20 > >ports when they are deemed needed in the base system. In fact it's =20 > >probably more important to have the tool in base remain compatible =20 > >with what users have had in their tree (via ports). > > > >I have yet to hear a compelling argument for why wake was chosen =20 > >over an existing tool that's been successfully used for a while. =20 > >OTOH this isn't something that'll keep me up at night; it just seems =20 > >like an ill-advised rush job that completely violates the intent of =20 > >the 8.0 code freeze.. >=20 > a compelling argument could be that wake(8) is BSD licensed while wol =20 > found in ports/net/wol is GPL licensed and brings in a whole lot of a =20 > whole lot of a whole lot of a whole lot of a stuff with it, when =20 > actually, to send out Wake on LAN package, a small BSD licensed =20 > command like wake(8) is sufficient. it is much smaller an cleaner code. Then, add the wake program to ports. My opinion is that this better be kept in ports. --nxoMry5nym+Z12ly Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkpKg78ACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4h+bgCfWJ5/HrHdSyRl554u+gIXlh9J Ny8An1sq6CztpVbIniSynGC/p6sXateC =wmor -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nxoMry5nym+Z12ly--