Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 00:04:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Crist J. Clark" <cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> To: jerryr@ComCAT.COM (Jerry) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pine inbox "Read Only" Message-ID: <199812010504.AAA05183@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.02A.9811302302020.24898-100000@uw> from Jerry at "Nov 30, 98 11:03:12 pm"
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Jerry wrote,
> > > > Assuming that pine lives in /usr/local/bin:
> > > >
> > > > chgrp mail /usr/local/bin/pine
> > > > chmod g+s /usr/local/bin/pine
> > >
> > > I ran these as root and made no difference, when I ran as user I got this
> > > error:
> > > chgrp: you are not a member of group mail
> >
> > You only run the above 2 commands as root. At this point, pine should
> > work fine.
>
> ;) didn't work!?! I'm lost!
This is starting to get really old. I just installed pine4 /just/ to
test. OK, here's some permissions,
% ls -la /var/mail/
drwxrwxr-x 2 bin mail 512 Oct 15 00:50 .
drwxr-xr-x 18 root wheel 512 Oct 5 21:04 ..
-rw------- 1 cjc cjc 33868 Nov 30 23:43 cjc
-rw------- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 9 02:03 root
% ls -la `which pine`
-r-xr-xr-x 1 bin bin 1814528 Nov 30 23:41 /usr/local/bin/pine
OK, as we see, and as I have been saying, the stuff about needing a
setuid or setgrp for the pine executable is incorrect. When the user
invokes pine, IT HAS THE USER'S PRIVILEGES. Since the user owns his
mailbox with read-write set, pine can do whatever it wants.
Now, another very valid point mentioned is that perhaps pine cannot
write to a temporary file in a certain location, gets confused, and
goes to read-only mode. Now, if the manpage is to be trusted, these
are the files pine uses,
/usr/spool/mail/xxxx Default folder for incoming
mail.
~/mail Default directory for mail
folders.
~/.addressbook Default address book file.
~/.addressbook.lu Default address book index
file.
~/.pine-debug[1-4] Diagnostic log for debugging.
~/.pinerc Personal pine config file.
~/.newsrc News subscription/state file.
~/.signature Default signature file.
~/.mailcap Personal mail capabilities
file.
~/.mime.types Personal file extension to
MIME type mapping
/etc/mailcap System-wide mail capabilities
file.
/etc/mime.types System-wide file ext. to MIME
type mapping
/usr/local/lib/pine.info Local pointer to system admin-
istrator.
/usr/local/lib/pine.conf System-wide configuration
file.
/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed Non-overridable configura-
tion file.
/tmp/.\usr\spool\mail\xxxx Per-folder mailbox lock files.
~/.pine-interrupted-mail Message which was interrupted.
~/mail/postponed-msgs For postponed messages.
~/mail/sent-mail Outgoing message archive
(FCC).
~/mail/saved-messages Default destination for Saving
messages.
Now, the first one there is shaky. pine can seem to find
/var/mail/"user" without shell or environmental variables. (Still
please check for us what these variables are set to.) For the
remaining files, we see the only place pine wants to write is in your
home directory or in /tmp.
Do all users have permissions to write in '/tmp?' Do they all have
home directories they can write in?
Jerry, if you can answer all of these... I don't know what else to
ask... Course I spent the entire day trying to configure sendmail on
an IRIX, and when I finally called SGI, the 'engineer' and I decided
I'd found a genuine bug in the sendmail and I finally settled on a
kludge I figured out at about 11:00 AM but didn't find elegant. So,
I'm not /too/ into a mail debugging mood at the moment. (Then why did
I just install pine again?... bleeding masochist I am.)
--
Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com
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