Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:49:46 -0500 (EST) From: Willow <willow@tds.edu> To: pat.groce@state.sd.us Cc: jlemon@americantv.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811091336330.1502-100000@zeus.tds.edu> In-Reply-To: <5D2C95997022D21187350008C7F4CF793E6C00@ESPR1SRV5.state.sd.us>
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whine, whine, whine I hate it when people blame computers or others for a lack of understanding or common sense. My 16 year old was able to install FreeBSD 3.0 on his P100 (w 64MB RAM/4GB HD) by following all the prompts and taking the default answers to everything that was asked and his system was up and running in about 2 hours, and it would have been done quicker except he decided to load ALL the packages on the CD. He rebooted and things worked as advertised. He didnt know squat about UNIX before he started. He asked a few questions afterwards on this mailing list and got responses and he's lovin it. -- willow@tds.edu -- On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote: > I couldn't get anything but 3.0 over the net. I mean i download boot.flp and > fdimage.exe, made my install disk, and 3.0 was what i got. DON'T BLAME ME, I > DID EVERYTHING THE WWW.FREEBD.ORG TOLD ME TO FOR AN INSTALL. Why didn't the > web site or setup program warn me not to install 3.0? > > The web page at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html made it all > sound so simple. I didn't know there were hidden issues! > > If the system isn't configured correctly its FREEBSD'S fault! Why can't a > fresh install even stand on two legs? So what if its out of disk space? Not > my fault. It should have configured the partitions correctly from the first > place. What a joke! And you're blaming ME for the system having problems? > > ADMIT IT! FREEBSD CAN NEVER HOLD A CANDLE TO NT. ONLY A MOUNTAIN TROLL WHO > SPENDS HIS DAYS SLOBBERING OVER A KEYBOARD HACKING SYSTEM CODE COULD EVER > GET IT WORKING. > > This os is not for the business world! > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Lemon [mailto:jlemon@americantv.com] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:27 AM > To: pat.groce@state.sd.us > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help > > > On Nov 11, 1998 at 10:01:11AM -0600, pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote: > > We had been running freebsd for 4 years to handle our internet email. Last > > week the hard drive crashed on the system. I had a tape backup of > important > > files so i reinstalled using the new freebsd 3.0 version. > > Let me get this straight; You had a system crash, so instead of > re-installing a known good system, you upgrade a production system > to the bleeding edge (3.0) without any prior testing? > > Honestly, this was a mistake, and the version that should have > been installed was installed was 2.2.7. > > > > cryptic errors. Sendmail keeps giving me an error: > > sendmail[131]: NOQUEUE: low on space (have 0, SMTP-DAEMON needs 101 in > > /var/spool/mqueue) > > So, sendmail gives you an error message saying that it is out of > disk space, and you blame it on sendmail? No offense, but it > sounds to me like the system isn't configured correctly. > > > > To hell with FreeBSD. We are replacing all of the systems with NT versions > > of sendmail. And it works great! I neat little GUI makes sendmail and the > > Exchange listservs easy to manage.The software may cost more, but in terms > > of staff time, we're saving thousands, not to mention all the frustration. > > > > I read all the news on how unix is going to give microsoft a run for the > > operating system market. I don't believe it for a second. > > You are welcome to your opinion. If NT works better for you, > then by all means, use it. > > FreeBSD is powerful, and can do anything that you want it to do. > However, it setting it up and maintaining it does require more > knowledge on the administrator's part than NT. In return, it > can provide "years of trouble-free operation"(tm). > > You did note that FreeBSD handled your email for 4 years before a > harddrive crash. Please feel free to give us a summary in 4 years > from now of how well NT behaves in doing the same task. > -- > Jonathan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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