From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 22 11:16:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB6237B423 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA72149; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:16:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:16:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200104221816.UAA72149@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Click on to meet someone you Click with In-Reply-To: <20010422120354.B26375@cec.wustl.edu> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.1-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Hesford wrote: > On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 11:54:55AM -0500, Chris Byrnes wrote: > > Perhaps it's time to make the mailing lists moderated, or unpostable > > unless you're subscribed? > > Yes, I see more crap. And I agree we should make the list unpostable to > those who aren't subscribed. NO! I'm not subscribed (I'm reading the list via a news gateway, because this is much more convenient), but I'd still like to be able to post to it. I guess there are quite a lot of people who are receiving the list to a different address than the one they're using for sending mail. > Being a young, firey student with time to kill, I usually send harsh > letters back, occassionally with large binary attachments. Very bad idea. In most cases you'll hit the wrong one. And even if your "mailbomb" reaches the original spammer, then it'll just be a confirmation for him that your email address actually works, and he'll continue to spam it and even sell the address to other spammers. Known-to-work addresses are valuable for those folks. The best thing is simply to ignore that stuff, and use filters. A pretty good idea is to silently drop all mails that don't contain any of your valid email addresses in the header (To, Cc, Bcc) and which come from none of the lists that you're subscribed to. Since most spam is send in large batches, it is not individually addressed, so it doesn't contain real recipient addresses in the header. Unfortunately, all of that doesn't really help against spam in mailing lists. Listserv (www.lsoft.com) is pretty good at identifying and suppressing spam postings, but Majordomo isn't that clever and sophisticated. I'm afraid that freebsd.org is using Majordomo. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message