From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Apr 22 0:36:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763F937B82A for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:36:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20250; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:36:38 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Jonathan Michaels Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bad144 missing? Message-ID: <20000422003638.A13562@orion.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20000421204946.A29420@isabase.philol.msu.ru> <20000421100024.A20588@orion.ac.hmc.edu> <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre4i In-Reply-To: <20000422141316.A792@phoenix.welearn.com.au>; from jon@welearn.com.au on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 02:13:17PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 02:13:17PM +1000, Jonathan Michaels wrote: > my "modern drive" dosen't, it is a 1992 fujitsu 345 mb esdi > with 6 bad sectors in the manufactuers 'bad blocks table' that > even after some sever abuse over the years has failed to add > one bad block ... unlke the so called new rubbish that drops > bad blocks as soon as you look at it or breat in its direction. Something made eight years ago isn't modern in this industry. It wasn't even particularly modern then. My parents had a machine with IDE disks before '92. > some of us freebsd users canot afford to upgrade every time the > rich deside to follow a new whim .. what are we going to do ? 3.x is a great version, it's got bad block support. I can't think of any good reasons to upgrade a box so old it has an esdi disk in it to 4.0. Most of the visiable improvements are for server class machines or in crypto integration. A machine with isn't a server class machine and proably wasn't even in '92. Cryto code an a circa '92 machine is going to hurt. A lot. > take care sooner or latter people will wake up and start asking > one simple question 'is this teh freebsd i want?', when the > answer come back no they will start to look eslewhere. If people ask themselves that question and the answer comes up no, then by all means, they should look elsewhere. FreeBSD *CAN* *NOT* be all things to all people. I use FreeBSD almost exclusivly and push it to anyone who will listen and could use it, but there are things I wouldn't or couldn't do with it. For instance, I wouldn't try to fit it onto devices so primitive they don't have VM hardware (i.e. a Palm Pilot) and I certaintly wouldn't try to run a major financial institution's account database on it. See my sig. > and what of all the people who still use this kind of hardware ? > > what are they supposed to do ? As I mentioned above, run 3.4 or even 2.2.8 depending on your needs. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message