From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 26 15:14:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F83C16A401 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1929513C4A3 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1QFED6k025110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:14:13 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.10.41] (c-67-187-172-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.187.172.183]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id l1QFECcZ007428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:14:13 -0800 Message-ID: <45E2F933.5040707@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:13:55 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <45E25D3A.7070308@chrismaness.com> <20070226124421.X89345@chylonia.3miasto.net> <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <45E2E578.4080201@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.0.289146, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2007.2.26.65934 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: Outlook With FreeBSD IMAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:14:19 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: >> anyway - outlook doesn't work well anytime, especially with imap. >> simply don't use it, thunderbird for windows works good with imap. > > This is not as feasible as stated. Changing 500 users from Outlook to > something they have likely never seen is always a nightmare, even if the > subtleties are small. > > Try explaining that to upper management..."uh, we are getting rid of > your Outlook, as well as everyone elses because our server won't work > with it. It should only take an hour per user to transfer everything > over to the new software, and most users will experience data loss > because not all parts are transferable." In short, it would cost less to > install Exchange than it would to migrate, train and re-create data for > that many users. > > To the OP...have you checked the log files on the server to check for > errors? I have numerous Outlook and OE users who use IMAP over SSL, and > SMTP Auth on port 587 (again with SSL). We do not use SPA. We use > courier-imap and qmail, and have vpopmail managing the multiple domains. > > Almost all of our domains have to use their full email address as > username. I have seen before however, that sometimes Outlook will try to > append their domain to the username (eg: user@domain.com\MSdomain or > something similar) so the problem may rest there. > > Depending on what IMAP server you use, the log file may be > /var/log/maillog. It should give you an idea of where to start looking. > > Steve I honestly do think that MS Outlook complies as well as other IMAP clients, just like MS and their IE browser >_>... For example, the University of Washington has the following for their email client page: http://www.washington.edu/computing/email/programs.html#configuring , and if you note the location of outlook (the bottom) along with the information "we don't support this", then maybe you get a hunch about how usable Outlook is with IMAP. The UW uses uw-imap (whatever the latest version is) because they develop that mailserver. I'd look at the directions a bit though, see what's going on, but yes authentication does work with SSL/TLS, and it works well from what I can understand. Otherwise other depts (like the one I was working for at the UW) would complain about not being to use Outlook, unless it was Exchange related. -Garrett