From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 20 23:23:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA30416A41B for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outH.internet-mail-service.net (outH.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6EA13C465 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from mx0.idiom.com (HELO idiom.com) (216.240.32.160) by out.internet-mail-service.net (qpsmtpd/0.32) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:10:39 -0700 Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (nat.ironport.com [63.251.108.100]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DFC125ADE; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46A1410F.3080703@elischer.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:11:11 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Macintosh/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Esser References: <20070720185101.F20123@mp2.macomnet.net> <46A0D313.8010904@delphij.net> <20070720192830.C20123@mp2.macomnet.net> <46A13A10.8070108@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <46A13A10.8070108@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, Xin LI Subject: Re: tunefs.8 oddity X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:23:45 -0000 Stefan Esser wrote: > Maxim Konovalov schrieb: >> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007, 23:21+0800, Xin LI wrote: >> >>> Maxim Konovalov wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> after spending a half an hour trying to help a friend of mine to turn >>>> soft updates on the root filesystem on I'd like to revert a part of >>>> rev. 1.21 just because it makes life of an average sysadmin easier: >>>> >>>> Index: tunefs.8 >>>> =================================================================== >>>> RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/tunefs/tunefs.8,v >>>> retrieving revision 1.37 >>>> diff -u -p -r1.37 tunefs.8 >>>> --- tunefs.8 31 Oct 2006 21:52:28 -0000 1.37 >>>> +++ tunefs.8 20 Jul 2007 14:57:30 -0000 >>>> @@ -165,6 +165,8 @@ utility appeared in >>>> .Bx 4.2 . >>>> .Sh BUGS >>>> This utility should work on active file systems. >>>> +To change the root filesystem, the system must be rebooted >>>> +after the filesystem is tuned. >>>> .\" Take this out and a Unix Daemon will dog your steps from now until >>>> .\" the time_t's wrap around. >>>> .Pp >>>> %%% >>> Any chance that we resolve the bug instead of documenting it? :-) >>> >> Personally, I have no energy/time for that. It was documented for >> ages, it is still documented in other BSDs. > > It has long ago been converted to a mount option instead of a > tunefs command in NetBSD. My FreeBSD systems are patched that > way since shortly after soft-updates was committed (long before > it became available in NetBSD, IIRC); I have not checked whether > they used the (very simple) patches I had posted at that time. > > Controlling soft-updates during mount has many advantages (not > only if you decide to enable it on a root file-system that had > been created without it) and no disadvantages. > As the person who added this originally on behalf of Kirk, I think the time for this has probably come. I think even Kirk has said this might now make sense but I'd check with him first. > Regards, STefan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"