From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Dec 8 9:12:34 2000 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 8 09:12:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0F9337B401 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 09:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from alumni.caltech.edu ([63.201.176.178]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G59003P9DGJ2I@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 8 Dec 2000 08:50:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 08:53:34 -0800 From: Dan Kegel Subject: Re: kqueue microbenchmark results Sender: dank@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: David Malone , Jonathan Lemon , Alfred Perlstein , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dank@alumni.caltech.edu Message-id: <3A31120E.3536F07D@alumni.caltech.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20001024225637.A54554@prism.flugsvamp.com> <39F6655A.353FD236@alumni.caltech.edu> <20001025115457.X28123@fw.wintelcom.net> <20001025170117.C87091@prism.flugsvamp.com> <20001207154925.A25785@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <3A30E115.CF7C76E8@newsguy.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > David Malone wrote: > > > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 05:01:17PM -0500, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > > > I'd love to do that, but am not quite sure how I'd go about it. > > > If you read the l-k mailing list, you'll see Linus calling kqueue > > > "overengineered", and what he is proposing is something that is > > > definitely not well thought out. > > > > Maybe Alexander Viro could help? He often follows what's happening > > in the BSD world and seems to do lots of good VFS type work in the > > Linux world. Matt Dillon recently worked with him on the file > > discriptor locking patches he committed. > > Why is it that I get the feeling more and more nowadays that Linus is > suffering from a worsening case of NIH when it comes to things > originated on BSD? Don't jump to conclusions. He's honestly trying to understand what the optimal interface would be. Let him catch up. Help him understand the requirements which motivated the kqueue design and why his proposed system call does not meet them. His role right now is to keep the kernel as simple as possible. You need to prove that his proposed interface is simpler than possible :-) - Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message