From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 5 01:29:44 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F5316A4CE for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 01:29:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730CE43D82 for ; Thu, 5 May 2005 01:29:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from [192.168.254.21] (rat.samsco.home [192.168.254.21]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j451VPC5064456; Wed, 4 May 2005 19:31:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <4279767D.5010203@samsco.org> Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 19:27:25 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20050321 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Swiger References: <20050504113817.GD22956@empiric.icir.org> <20050504132429.GA2105@uk.tiscali.com> <5207b55e44478fa93e3689ad79b54f4d@mac.com> <20050504.152439.71089989.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Warner Losh Subject: Re: boot banner project X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 01:29:44 -0000 Charles Swiger wrote: > On May 4, 2005, at 5:24 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > >>> Agreed. I consider it a serious misfortune that FreeBSD doesn't use >>> /bin/sh as root's shell. On the other hand, it's easy enough to fix, >>> so I haven't spent my time complaining about this. :-) >> >> >> All BSDs have, since a very long time ago, used /bin/csh as root's >> shell. > > > NEXTSTEP never did; and neither does OS X: > OSX used csh by default until the 10.3 series release. You can still (thankfully) select it. IMHO, csh/tcsh is superior for interactive use, and bash/ksh is superior for scripting. It's amazing what happens when you pick the right tool for the job; hammers are vastly superior at pounding nails, while screw drivers are vastly superior at turning screws. Scott