From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Feb 18 18:49:13 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A83242D4A for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 18:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ozgur@kazancci.com) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48MVJ64czgz4Q31 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 18:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ozgur@kazancci.com) Received: from sogo15.sd4.0x35.net (sogo15.sd4.0x35.net [10.200.201.65]) (Authenticated sender: ozgur@kazancci.com) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 39648E0009; Tue, 18 Feb 2020 18:49:06 +0000 (UTC) From: =?utf-8?q?ozgur=40kazancci=2Ecom?= In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Forward: 127.0.0.1 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 19:49:06 +0100 Cc: "FreeBSD Questions Mailing List" To: "Tomasz CEDRO" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1aaf-5e4c3180-19-32bea140@106400311> Subject: =?utf-8?q?Re=3A?==?utf-8?q?_=5BFreeBSD-Announce=5D?= FreeBSD =?utf-8?q?12=2E0?= end-of-life User-Agent: SOGoMail 4.3.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48MVJ64czgz4Q31 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ozgur@kazancci.com designates 217.70.183.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ozgur@kazancci.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.02 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.930,0]; FROM_DN_EQ_ADDR(1.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[196.183.70.217.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:217.70.183.192/28]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kazancci.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; SUBJ_EXCESS_QP(1.20)[]; FROM_EXCESS_QP(1.20)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.58)[ip: (-5.07), ipnet: 217.70.176.0/20(-1.58), asn: 29169(-1.28), country: FR(0.00)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[196.183.70.217.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:29169, ipnet:217.70.176.0/20, country:FR]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 18:49:13 -0000 > I am not sure if it is that important if there is a release in 6 mont= h or 2 years. Not a problem at all. If in two years I get a 5 new > features that work rock solid then it seems a better choice than > getting new features every six months and have more problems on a > production because of that. Totally agree that. ^^ People usually move from Linux distros to OpenBSD/FreeBSD to....calm do= wn a little&focus on system management/usage/administration and feel tr= ue UNIX stability. Having brand new (and untested) fancy features&grabbing an upper OS ver= sion/release number is -imvho- the last choice of *BSD users/sys.admins= . Best, =C3=96zg=C3=BCr Kazancci On 18 February, 2020 20:39 +03, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: = > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ed Maste wrote: > > > > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 05:37, Tomasz CEDRO wrote= : > > > > > > Maybe its a time to give OpenBSD a try.. > > > > I really don't understand this comment, either. Certainly give Open= BSD > > a try and if it fits your needs better that's great. > > > > As far as I'm aware OpenBSD issues a release every six months and > > supports the most recent two releases, so it seems odd to me to > > complain about FreeBSD's ~1 year minor release support lifetime and= 5 > > year stable branch support lifetime in that context. > > Its more like "lets try if what I need works better over there". Not > really the release timeline. > > The release timeline problem is more related with pushing untested > features (and possible avalanche of solutions that introduce yet > another complications that we observe right now). > > "The BSD Way", for me, was always about "it works solid or its not > there". Like macOS / iOS. > > Unlike "The Linux Way" where things changes upside down from release > to release and each one of them has its own universe of variants. Lik= e > Android. > > I am not sure if it is that important if there is a release in 6 mont= h > or 2 years. Not a problem at all. If in two years I get a 5 new > features that work rock solid then it seems a better choice than > getting new features every six months and have more problems on a > production because of that. > > If I need to experiment there is a CURRENT branch. For well tested > features I have STABLE. For rock solid "I bet my money on that" I hav= e > a RELEASE. Right? > > I did miss the 12.0 EoL kind of fix for DRM, sorry, it seems > reasonable. I am just worried that 12.2-RELEASE will have the same > problems, if not more new problems. > > Maybe I should go back to 11 and see how things work over there :-P > > Tomek > > -- > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org"