From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Dec 12 16:43:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DEC14E32 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:43:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26715 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 01:43:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id BAA51515 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 01:43:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B0014E32; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:43:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whiste.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA93517; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:43:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:43:36 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Mike Smith Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recent face to face threads talks. In-Reply-To: <199912130013.QAA04310@mass.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > I think that others are going to cover the technical aspects of this > discussion, so I'm going to limit myself to one slightly disappointing > observation. > > During the proceedings, it became very clear that only a small number of > attendees have taken the time to perform any substantial research on the > topic. None of the ideas being discussed are new; they've all been > looked at many, many years ago. If we're going to maintain our > reputation for careful implementation of time-tested ideas and > techniques, we need to avail ourselves of the work of others, and that > means hunting down and reading the large volume of research output on the > topic. The discussion was not so much a description of all that has been done in the past but a discussion of some of the ideas that we have already narrowed down to given that we want to implement it in something vaguely related to the current system. I think a lot of the discussion was from the perspective of: "What can we implement in arealistic time scale". > > I know that Terry has a reading list, and I'm sure that others do as > well. I think it'd be to our great advantage to have these lists > distributed as well as a central repository of papers and references > created so that we pull ourselves past the discussing of half-baked ideas > and avoid several years worth of wheel reinvention. We've already published a list of threading related papers on this mailing list but I am sure we can do it again. Julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message